<div dir="ltr"><div><div>"if <span class="gmail-il">DevStack</span> gets custom images prepped to make its jobs<br>
run faster, won't Triple-O, Kolla, et cetera want the same and where<br>
do we draw that line?). "<br><br></div>IMHO we can try to have only one big image per distribution, <br>where the packages are the union of the packages requested by all team,<br></div><div>minus the packages blacklisted by any team.<br><br></div><div>You need to provide a bug link(s) (distribution/upstream bug) for blacklisting<br></div><div>a package.<br><br></div><div>Very unlikely we will run out from the disk space juts because of the too many packages,<br></div><div>usually if a package causes harm to anything it is a distro/upstream bug which expected<br></div><div>to be solved within 1..2 cycle in the worst case scenario.<br><br></div><div>If the above thing proven to be not working, we need to draw the line based on the<br></div><div>expected usage frequency.<br></div><div> <br></div><div><br></div><div><div><div><br></div></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 3:46 PM, Jeremy Stanley <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:fungi@yuggoth.org" target="_blank">fungi@yuggoth.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class="">On 2017-09-20 15:17:28 +0200 (+0200), Attila Fazekas wrote:<br>
[...]<br>
</span><span class="">> The image building was the good old working solution and unless<br>
> the image build become a super expensive thing, this is still the<br>
> best option.<br>
</span>[...]<br>
<br>
It became a super expensive thing, and that's the main reason we<br>
stopped doing it. Now that Nodepool has grown support for<br>
distributed/parallel image building and uploading, the cost model<br>
may have changed a bit in that regard so I agree it doesn't hurt to<br>
revisit that decision. Nevertheless it will take a fair amount of<br>
convincing that the savings balances out the costs (not just in<br>
resource consumption but also administrative overhead and community<br>
impact... if DevStack gets custom images prepped to make its jobs<br>
run faster, won't Triple-O, Kolla, et cetera want the same and where<br>
do we draw that line?).<br>
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Jeremy Stanley<br>
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