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<p dir="auto">I submitted an issue on the landscape[1], but there's been no activity or comments on it. It looks like David Flanders had some interaction on it a long time ago [2].</p>

<p dir="auto">Big poster-pictures like this inevitably get used to promote marketing messages (the linked ML thread explicitly says that was the point of the diagram), so it would be nice to have OpenStack projects accurately represented.[3]</p>

<p dir="auto">[1] <a href="https://github.com/cncf/landscape/issues/150" style="color:#3983C4">https://github.com/cncf/landscape/issues/150</a><br>
[2] <a href="https://github.com/cncf/landscape/issues/41" style="color:#3983C4">https://github.com/cncf/landscape/issues/41</a><br>
[3] Please no "But what <em>is</em> OpenStack?" debates for the thousandth time. ;-)</p>

<p dir="auto">--John</p>

<p dir="auto">On 15 Sep 2017, at 12:15, Joshua Harlow wrote:</p>

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<div style="white-space:normal"><blockquote style="border-left:2px solid #777; color:#777; margin:0 0 5px; padding-left:5px"><p dir="auto">Hi folks,<br>
<br>
Something that has been bugging me (a tiny bit, not a lot) is the following CNCF landscape picture.<br>
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<a href="https://raw.githubusercontent.com/cncf/landscape/master/landscape/CloudNativeLandscape_v0.9.7.jpg" style="color:#777">https://raw.githubusercontent.com/cncf/landscape/master/landscape/CloudNativeLandscape_v0.9.7.jpg</a><br>
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If you look for openstack (for some reason it's under bare metal) in that you may also get the weird feeling (as I did) that there is some kind of misunderstanding that the CNCF leadership/technical community/... as to what is openstack.<br>
<br>
I am wondering if we (or the openstack foundation?) can have a larger sit-down with those folks and explain to them what is openstack and why its components are not just baremetal...<br>
<br>
Full cncf-toc thread at:<br>
<br>
<a href="https://lists.cncf.io/pipermail/cncf-toc/2017-September/thread.html#1170" style="color:#777">https://lists.cncf.io/pipermail/cncf-toc/2017-September/thread.html#1170</a><br>
<br>
-Josh<br>
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