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</span>This seems like a game of semantics. In your earlier message (quoted<br>
above) you said, "we will make our meeting this week as an online<br>
video meeting," and you've scheduled it for the exact same time as<br>
your normal IRC meeting. I'm not sure how anyone can come to a<br>
different conclusion than that you're (at least experimenting with)<br>
replacing your weekly IRC meetings with teleconferencing.<br></blockquote><div> </div><div>First, please don't worry about that replacing issue, because we never want to replace</div><div>IRC meeting in anyway. And to make this clear, this is not even a experiment to do so.</div><div>The hole point of have this meetup is to help all team member got chances to join future<br>face to face discussion and hopefully become a virtual+face-to-face discussion (I only mean PTG here).</div><div>Just like what I said in the ML above "<span style="font-size:14px">The reason for doing this is because we're a global team</span></div><div><span style="font-size:14px"> which almost impossible for all of us to literally sit in the same room in PTG/anywhere"</span></div><div><br></div><div><span style="font-size:14px">To deal that we got more then half cores missing in last PTG only because they can't make it?</span></div><div><span style="font-size:14px">That the issue we have to solve here.</span></div><div>And thanks for correct my semantics issue, I already send another ML out for clearfy that.</div><div>Will choose my word carefully. We definitely don't want and misstaken of the reason why we host</div><div>the meetup here, so thank you for that.</div><div><br></div><div>As for why doing meetup this time, instead of meeting, because we don't need anything other than to</div><div>review BPs and Goals. And would hope to make more patches landing before freeze.</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><span class="gmail-m_8501390243775840686gmail-"><br>
</span>The point wasn't whether there are open alternatives, just that<br>
you're expressly choosing convenience over software freedom. I get<br>
that different people place different priorities on this: for some<br>
free software is nice to have as long as it doesn't get in their<br>
way, while for others it's a mandate even if it means not getting to<br>
use some shiny new feature. The decision doesn't directly impact me<br>
as I only ever at most lurk in the Heat meeting in case anyone<br>
requests my input and maybe occasionally read the minutes/log, but<br>
as an example set by a long-standing team within the community it's<br>
certainly disappointing.<br></blockquote><div>Thanks for share that concern out, I will raise this issue to team(maybe in meeting next week).</div><div>The sad, OpenStack already start to adopt something here(I'm actually agree with you and we should kill <a href="https://openstack.webex.com">https://openstack.webex.com</a>)</div><div>Again this is for one meetup and will seek on any feedback, so feedback taken.</div><div>Thank you for fighting for this.</div></div><div class="gmail-m_8501390243775840686gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><p style="margin-right:0cm;margin-left:0cm;text-align:justify"></p></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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