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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 07/11/2017 09:28 PM, Mathieu Gagné
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          style="font-family:monospace,monospace">So this email is
          relevant to my interests as an operator. =)</div>
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    Glad to hear it!<br>
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          <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 9:35 PM,
            Lance Bragstad <span dir="ltr"><<a
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                <p><b>The future of the templated catalog backend</b><br>
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                <p>Some issues were uncovered, or just resurfaced, with
                  the templated catalog backend. The net of the
                  discussion boiled down to - do we fix it or remove it?
                  The answer actually ended up being both. It was
                  determined that instead of trying to maintain and fix
                  the existing templated backend, we should deprecate it
                  for removal [0]. Since it does provide some value, it
                  was suggested that we can start implementing a new
                  backend based on YAML to fill the purpose instead. The
                  advantage here is that the approach is directed
                  towards a specific format (YAML). This should
                  hopefully make things easier for both developers and
                  users.</p>
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                style="font-family:monospace,monospace;display:inline">We
                have been exclusively using the templated catalog
                backend for at least 5 years without any major issues.
                And it looks like we are now among the < 3% using
                templated according to the April 2017 user survey. </div>
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                style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:"Helvetica
                Neue";font-size:12px">)_/¯</span></div>
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                  face="monospace, monospace">We choose the templated
                  catalog backend for its simplicity (especially with
                  our CMS) and because it makes no sense (to me) to use
                  and rely on an </font></div>
              <span style="font-family:monospace,monospace">SQL server
                to serve what is essentially static content
                <div class="gmail_default" style="display:inline">​.​</div>
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            <div><span style="font-family:monospace,monospace">Regarding
                the v3 catalog support, we do have an in-house fix we
                intended to upstream</span>
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                very soon (and just did right now)​</div>
              <span style="font-family:monospace,monospace">. [1]</span><span
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              <div><span style="font-family:monospace,monospace">So if </span><span
                  style="font-family:monospace,monospace">the templated
                  catalog backend</span><font face="monospace,
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                    alternate​</div>
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                    file based</div>
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                  implementation​, a production grade implementation</div>
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                    face="monospace, monospace">​ before I get spammed
                    with deprecation warnings in the keystone logs.</font></div>
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    I think that is fair. Morgan was working on an implementation
    yesterday, but I don't think anything made it to Gerrit. As soon as
    it does, I'll be sure to update the thread. Thanks for speaking up!<br>
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                style="font-family:monospace,monospace;display:inline">[1] <a
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