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ingest tasks to look for this new data. Can we get an ETA on when to
expect updates from the majority of projects? Right now, there isn't too
much to test with. <br>
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Cheers,<br>
Jimmy<br>
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__pbrmquotes="true" class="__pbConvBody"><div><!----><br>+1<br><br>The
multi-file format was what the navigator team wanted, and there's<br>plenty
of support for it among other reviewers. Let's move this forward.<br><br>Doug<br><br>__________________________________________________________________________<br>OpenStack
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need the TC approval on this ? It's not a formal governance<br>change or
anything.<br><br>Whoever has rights on that repo could approve it now
and ask for<br>forgiveness later :)<br><br></div></div>
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<div style="color:#888888;margin-left:24px;margin-right:24px;"
__pbrmquotes="true" class="__pbConvBody">On 04/13/2017 08:28 AM, Jimmy
McArthur wrote:
<br><blockquote type="cite">Just checking on the progress of this. :)
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<br>Unfortunately a good portion of the TC was away this week at the
leadership training so getting a final ok on it was a bit stalled. It's
seeming like the multi-file version is the one most people like though,
so I'm mostly expecting that to be what we end up with. We should be
able to get final approval by Tuesday, and then can work on getting all
of the project info filled in.
<br>
<br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Monty Taylor
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<br>April 7, 2017 at 7:05 AM
<br>
<br>
<br>There is a new repo now:
<br>
<br><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/project-navigator-data">http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/project-navigator-data</a>
<br>
<br>I have pushed up two different patches with two different
approaches:
<br>
<br><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://review.openstack.org/#/c/454691">https://review.openstack.org/#/c/454691</a>
<br><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://review.openstack.org/#/c/454688">https://review.openstack.org/#/c/454688</a>
<br>
<br>One is a single file per release. The other is a file per service
per
<br>release.
<br>
<br>Benefits of the single-file are that it's a single file to pull and
<br>parse.
<br>
<br>Benefits of the multi-file approach are that projects can submit
<br>documents for themselves as patches without fear of merge conflicts,
<br>and that the format is actually _identical_ to the format for
version
<br>discovery from the API-WG, minus the links section.
<br>
<br>I think I prefer the multi-file approach, but would be happy either
way.
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<br>April 6, 2017 at 3:51 PM
<br>Cool. Thanks Monty!
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<br>April 6, 2017 at 3:21 PM
<br>On 04/06/2017 11:58 AM, Jimmy McArthur wrote:
<br><blockquote type="cite">Assuming this format is accepted, do you all
have any sense of when this
<br>data will be complete for all projects?
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<br>Hopefully "soon" :)
<br>
<br>Honestly, it's not terribly difficult data to produce, so once we're
<br>happy with it and where it goes, crowdsourcing filling it all in
<br>should go quickly.
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<br>FWIW, from my perspective on the Project Navigator side, this format
<br>works great. We can actually derive the age of the project from this
<br>information as well by identifying the first release that has API
data
<br>for a particular project. I'm indifferent about where it lives, so
I'd
<br>defer to you all to determine the best spot.
<br>
<br>I really appreciate you all putting this together!
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<br>Jimmy
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<br>April 5, 2017 at 5:28 AM
<br>
<br>Somehow missed this thread, so will repost here comments I made
<br>elsewhere:
<br>
<br>This looks good, but I would rather not overload the releases
<br>repository. My personal preference (which was also expressed by
<br>Doug in the TC meeting) would be to set this information up in a
<br>"project-navigator" git repo that we would reuse for any information
we
<br>need to collect from projects for accurate display on the project
<br>navigator. If the data is not maintained anywhere else (or easily
<br>derivable from existing data), we would use that repository to
collect
<br>it from projects.
<br>
<br>That way there is a clear place to go to to propose fixes to the
<br>project
<br>navigator data. Not knowing how to fix that data is a common
complaint,
<br>so if we can point people to a git repo (and redirect people from
there
<br>to the places where other bits of information happen to live) that
<br>would
<br>be great.
<br>
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<br>April 4, 2017 at 5:47 PM
<br>Hey all,
<br>
<br>As per our discussion in today's TC meeting, I have made a document
<br>format for reporting versions to the project navigator. I stuck it
in
<br>the releases repo:
<br>
<br> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://review.openstack.org/453361">https://review.openstack.org/453361</a>
<br>
<br>Because there was already per-release information there, and the
<br>governance repo did not have that structure.
<br>
<br>I've included pseudo-code and a human explanation of how to get from
a
<br>service's version discovery document to the data in this document,
but
<br>also how it can be maintained- which is likely to be easier by hand
<br>than by automation - but who knows, maybe we decide we want to make a
<br>devstack job for each service that runs on tag events that submits a
<br>patch to the releases repo. That sounds like WAY more work than once
a
<br>cycle someone adding a few lines of json to a repo - but *shrug*.
<br>
<br>Basing it on the version discovery docs show a few things:
<br>
<br>* "As a user, I want to consume an OpenStack Service's Discovery
<br>Document" is a thing people might want to do and want to do
<br>consistently across services.
<br>
<br>* We're not that far off from being able to do that today.
<br>
<br>* Still, like we are in many places, we're randomly different in a
few
<br>minor ways that do not actually matter but make life harder for our
<br>users.
<br>
<br>Thoughts and feedback more than welcome!
<br>Monty
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<br>Assuming this format is accepted, do you all have any sense of when
<br>this data will be complete for all projects?
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<br>FWIW, from my perspective on the Project Navigator side, this format
<br>works great. We can actually derive the age of the project from this
<br>information as well by identifying the first release that has API
data
<br>for a particular project. I'm indifferent about where it lives, so
I'd
<br>defer to you all to determine the best spot.
<br>
<br>I really appreciate you all putting this together!
<br>
<br>Jimmy
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