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progress of this. :)<br>
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<br>There is a new repo now:
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<br><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/project-navigator-data">http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/project-navigator-data</a>
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<br>I have pushed up two different patches with two different 
approaches:
<br>
<br><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://review.openstack.org/#/c/454691">https://review.openstack.org/#/c/454691</a>
<br><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://review.openstack.org/#/c/454688">https://review.openstack.org/#/c/454688</a>
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<br>One is a single file per release. The other is a file per service 
per 
release.
<br>
<br>Benefits of the single-file are that it's a single file to pull and 
parse.
<br>
<br>Benefits of the multi-file approach are that projects can submit 
documents for themselves as patches without fear of merge conflicts, and
 
that the format is actually _identical_ to the format for version 
discovery from the API-WG, minus the links section.
<br>
<br>I think I prefer the multi-file approach, but would be happy either 
way.
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Cool. Thanks Monty!<br>
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__pbrmquotes="true" class="__pbConvBody">On 04/06/2017 11:58 AM, Jimmy 
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<br><blockquote type="cite">Assuming this format is accepted, do you all
 have any sense of when this
<br>data will be complete for all projects?
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<br>Hopefully "soon" :)
<br>
<br>Honestly, it's not terribly difficult data to produce, so once we're
 
happy with it and where it goes, crowdsourcing filling it all in should 
go quickly.
<br>
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<br>April 5, 2017 at 8:59 AM
<br>FWIW, from my perspective on the Project Navigator side, this format
<br>works great. We can actually derive the age of the project from this
<br>information as well by identifying the first release that has API 
data
<br>for a particular project. I'm indifferent about where it lives, so 
I'd
<br>defer to you all to determine the best spot.
<br>
<br>I really appreciate you all putting this together!
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<br>Jimmy
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<br>April 5, 2017 at 5:28 AM
<br>
<br>Somehow missed this thread, so will repost here comments I made 
elsewhere:
<br>
<br>This looks good, but I would rather not overload the releases
<br>repository. My personal preference (which was also expressed by
<br>Doug in the TC meeting) would be to set this information up in a
<br>"project-navigator" git repo that we would reuse for any information
 we
<br>need to collect from projects for accurate display on the project
<br>navigator. If the data is not maintained anywhere else (or easily
<br>derivable from existing data), we would use that repository to 
collect
<br>it from projects.
<br>
<br>That way there is a clear place to go to to propose fixes to the 
project
<br>navigator data. Not knowing how to fix that data is a common 
complaint,
<br>so if we can point people to a git repo (and redirect people from 
there
<br>to the places where other bits of information happen to live) that 
would
<br>be great.
<br>
<br>Monty Taylor <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mordred@inaugust.com"><mailto:mordred@inaugust.com></a>
<br>April 4, 2017 at 5:47 PM
<br>Hey all,
<br>
<br>As per our discussion in today's TC meeting, I have made a document
<br>format for reporting versions to the project navigator. I stuck it 
in
<br>the releases repo:
<br>
<br>  <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://review.openstack.org/453361">https://review.openstack.org/453361</a>
<br>
<br>Because there was already per-release information there, and the
<br>governance repo did not have that structure.
<br>
<br>I've included pseudo-code and a human explanation of how to get from
 a
<br>service's version discovery document to the data in this document, 
but
<br>also how it can be maintained- which is likely to be easier by hand
<br>than by automation - but who knows, maybe we decide we want to make a
<br>devstack job for each service that runs on tag events that submits a
<br>patch to the releases repo. That sounds like WAY more work than once
 a
<br>cycle someone adding a few lines of json to a repo - but *shrug*.
<br>
<br>Basing it on the version discovery docs show a few things:
<br>
<br>* "As a user, I want to consume an OpenStack Service's Discovery
<br>Document" is a thing people might want to do and want to do
<br>consistently across services.
<br>
<br>* We're not that far off from being able to do that today.
<br>
<br>* Still, like we are in many places, we're randomly different in a 
few
<br>minor ways that do not actually matter but make life harder for our
<br>users.
<br>
<br>Thoughts and feedback more than welcome!
<br>Monty
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Assuming this format is 
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for all projects? <br>
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FWIW, from my perspective 
on the Project Navigator side, this format works great. We can actually 
derive the age of the project from this information as well by 
identifying the first release that has API data for a particular 
project. I'm indifferent about where it lives, so I'd defer to you all 
to determine the best spot. <br>
<br>
I really appreciate you all putting this together!<br>
<br>
Jimmy<br>
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