<div dir="ltr">I worked with Gary on IRC and discovered that we aren't making use of the flag added in [1], which makes adoption harder. I've proposed a patch to neutron-lib[2] that should alleviate some of these issues.<div><br></div><div>1. <a href="https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo.db/+bug/1664643">https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo.db/+bug/1664643</a></div><div>2. <a href="https://review.openstack.org/#/c/453063/">https://review.openstack.org/#/c/453063/</a><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 3:11 AM, Anna Taraday <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:akamyshnikova@mirantis.com" target="_blank">akamyshnikova@mirantis.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hi!<br><br>This errors does not mean that foreign key usage is broken. This means that there is a mess with transactions. As you paste small piece of trace it is hard to say why this happen, but during my work I saw such errors and resolve them. And probably you need to revisit your unit tests.<br><br>Please, send me email directly with links for traces, does this happen on master branch, does it happen on one of your changes - it is hard to guess. <div><div class="h5"><br><div><br class="m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg"><br class="m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_quote m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg"><div dir="ltr" class="m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg">On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 11:16 AM Gary Kotton <<a href="mailto:gkotton@vmware.com" class="m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg" target="_blank">gkotton@vmware.com</a>> wrote:<br class="m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg"></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri" class="m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg">Hi,<u class="m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg"></u><u class="m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg"></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri" class="m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg">The problem that we have is that any foreign key usage under transactions is now broken. An example of an exception that is raised is:<u class="m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg"></u><u class="m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg"></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri" class="m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg"> DBReferenceError: (sqlite3.IntegrityError) FOREIGN KEY constraint failed [SQL: u'INSERT INTO neutron_nsx_firewall_section_<wbr>mappings (created_at, updated_at, neutron_id, nsx_id) VALUES
(?, ?, ?, ?)'] [parameters: ('2017-04-04 06:48:25.595118', None, '6a086bf1-b1c9-495f-bfca-<wbr>810d6638e3fa', '2563cd05-edd9-4c7f-9708-<wbr>857a129e2642')]<u class="m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg"></u><u class="m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg"></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri" class="m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg">This is a major refactor in the plugin (which I guess is part and parcel of rolling with the punches). I am just concerned if we are the only folks that have affected by this.<u class="m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg"></u><u class="m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg"></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri" class="m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg">Thanks<u class="m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg"></u><u class="m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg"></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri" class="m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg">Gary<u class="m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg"></u><u class="m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg"></u></span></p>
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</b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black" class="m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg">Gary Kotton <<a href="mailto:gkotton@vmware.com" class="m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg" target="_blank">gkotton@vmware.com</a>><br class="m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg">
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<b class="m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg">Date: </b>Monday, April 3, 2017 at 3:14 PM</span></p></div></div></div><div bgcolor="white" lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple" class="m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg"><div class="m_-568462580977423375m_1846757984325024509m_5883951325863318767WordSection1 m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg"><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in" class="m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg"><p class="MsoNormal m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg"><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black" class="m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg"><br class="m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg">
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<b class="m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg">Subject: </b>Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Engine facade<u class="m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg"></u><u class="m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg"></u></span></p></div></div></div><div bgcolor="white" lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple" class="m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg"><div class="m_-568462580977423375m_1846757984325024509m_5883951325863318767WordSection1 m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg">
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<p class="MsoNormal m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri" class="m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg">Hi, </span>
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<p class="MsoNormal m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri" class="m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg">We needed to make all of those changes to just get the plugin to pass unit tests and CI. We are still seeing lots of issues and need to look deeper. The façade changes have caused a lot
of instability issues. I am not 100% sure why. Issues that we have seen:</span><u class="m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg"></u><u class="m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg"></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri" class="m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg">1. object creation under a transaction broke</span><u class="m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg"></u><u class="m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg"></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri" class="m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg">2. deleting DB entries under transaction also broke</span><u class="m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg"></u><u class="m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg"></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri" class="m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg">Thanks</span><u class="m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg"></u><u class="m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg"></u></p>
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</b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black" class="m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg">Anna Taraday <<a href="mailto:akamyshnikova@mirantis.com" class="m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg" target="_blank">akamyshnikova@mirantis.com</a>><br class="m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg">
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<b class="m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg">Date: </b>Monday, April 3, 2017 at 11:53 AM<br class="m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg">
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<p class="MsoNormal m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg">Hi!<br class="m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg">
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I'm a little confused change <a href="https://review.openstack.org/#/c/452539/" class="m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg" target="_blank">https://review.<wbr>openstack.org/#/c/452539/</a> is about switching for new facade, does the master branch fails the same?<u class="m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg"></u><u class="m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg"></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg">On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 8:35 AM Gary Kotton <<a href="mailto:gkotton@vmware.com" class="m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg" target="_blank">gkotton@vmware.com</a>> wrote:<u class="m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg"></u><u class="m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg"></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg"><span class="m_-568462580977423375m_1846757984325024509m_5883951325863318767gmailmsg m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri" class="m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg">Yes, sorry my bad for not adding it -
<a href="http://logs.openstack.org/39/452539/2/check/gate-vmware-nsx-python27-ubuntu-xenial/14c019c/testr_results.html.gz" class="m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg" target="_blank">
http://logs.openstack.org/39/<wbr>452539/2/check/gate-vmware-<wbr>nsx-python27-ubuntu-xenial/<wbr>14c019c/testr_results.html.gz</a></span></span><u class="m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg"></u><u class="m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg"></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg"><span class="m_-568462580977423375m_1846757984325024509m_5883951325863318767gmailmsg m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri" class="m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg">Please see the test
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<p class="MsoNormal m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg"><span class="m_-568462580977423375m_1846757984325024509m_5883951325863318767gmailmsg m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri" class="m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg">Gary</span></span><u class="m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg"></u><u class="m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg"></u></p>
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</span></b></span><span class="m_-568462580977423375m_1846757984325024509m_5883951325863318767gmailmsg m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg"><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black" class="m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg">Kevin Benton <kevin@benton.pub></span></span><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black" class="m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg"><br class="m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg">
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<p class="MsoNormal m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg">Do you have a link to a traceback? <u class="m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg"></u><u class="m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg"></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg">On Apr 2, 2017 09:25, "Gary Kotton" <<a href="mailto:gkotton@vmware.com" class="m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg" target="_blank">gkotton@vmware.com</a>> wrote:<u class="m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg"></u><u class="m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg"></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg"><span class="m_-568462580977423375m_1846757984325024509m_5883951325863318767gmailmsg m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:11.0pt" class="m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg">Hi,</span></span><u class="m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg"></u><u class="m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg"></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg"><span class="m_-568462580977423375m_1846757984325024509m_5883951325863318767gmailmsg m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:11.0pt" class="m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg">The change
<a href="https://review.openstack.org/#/c/402750/" class="m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg" target="_blank">https://review.openstack.org/#<wbr>/c/402750/</a> has broken the vmware-nsx plugin. I am not sure if this has had effect on any other decomposed plugins.</span></span><u class="m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg"></u><u class="m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg"></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg"><span class="m_-568462580977423375m_1846757984325024509m_5883951325863318767gmailmsg m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:11.0pt" class="m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg">One of the issues that we have is when we create a PortDNS object under a transaction we get an exception: DBReferenceError:
(sqlite3.IntegrityError) FOREIGN KEY constraint failed [SQL: u'INSERT INTO portdnses (port_id, current_dns_name, current_dns_domain, previous_dns_name, previous_dns_domain, dns_name) VALUES (?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?)'] [parameters: ('2f2039ac-e7e6-4cc3-a8a0-<wbr>3298089d4afb',
u'', u'', u'', u'', u'port-dns-name')]</span></span><u class="m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg"></u><u class="m_-568462580977423375gmail_msg"></u></p>
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