<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 4:49 PM, Davanum Srinivas <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:davanum@gmail.com" target="_blank">davanum@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Andrey,<br>
<br>
It's a question, not a proposal. <br></blockquote><div><br>Sorry, but your message doesn't sound like a question. It sounds like a polite proposal.<br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
If you don't do use releases repo, then rally information will be stale here:<br>
<a href="https://releases.openstack.org/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://releases.openstack.org<wbr>/</a><br>
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Here's why we have a release team and things we do:<br>
<a href="https://governance.openstack.org/tc/reference/projects/release-management.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://governance.openstack.o<wbr>rg/tc/reference/projects/relea<wbr>se-management.html</a><br>
<a href="https://specs.openstack.org/openstack-infra/infra-specs/specs/centralize-release-tagging.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://specs.openstack.org/op<wbr>enstack-infra/infra-specs/spec<wbr>s/centralize-release-tagging.<wbr>html</a><br>
<a href="http://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/release-management.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://docs.openstack.org/proj<wbr>ect-team-guide/release-managem<wbr>ent.html</a><br>
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Since Rally is following the independent model, it has a whole lot of leeway:<br>
<a href="http://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/release-management.html#independent-release-model" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://docs.openstack.org/proj<wbr>ect-team-guide/release-managem<wbr>ent.html#independent-release-<wbr>model</a><br>
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However the absolute minimum requirement is that the releases repo<br>
should be kept in sync. If that is too cumbersome, i don't know...<br>
<br></blockquote><div><br>Please re-read your first mail in the thread. It is not about synchronizing release notes at all. You are <br>asking about <span id="gmail-m_-5196062208032999594gmail-result_box" class="gmail-m_-5196062208032999594gmail-short_text" lang="en"><span>throwing </span></span><span id="gmail-m_-5196062208032999594gmail-result_box" class="gmail-m_-5196062208032999594gmail-short_text" lang="en"><span><span id="gmail-m_-5196062208032999594gmail-result_box" class="gmail-m_-5196062208032999594gmail-short_text" lang="en">Rally project </span>out</span> from Big Tent due to ourdated info posted at </span><span id="gmail-m_-5196062208032999594gmail-result_box" class="gmail-m_-5196062208032999594gmail-short_text" lang="en"><a href="https://releases.openstack.org/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://releases.openstack.org<wbr></a>. <br></span><span id="gmail-m_-5196062208032999594gmail-result_box" class="gmail-m_-5196062208032999594gmail-short_text" lang="en">Seriusly? <br></span></div><div><br>To finish this topic:<br></div><div><br>- As a Rally PTL, I do not want to drop the project out of Big Tent. At least for now. Who knows what will happen <br>  when you will extend bureaucracy someday...<span id="gmail-result_box" class="gmail-short_text" lang="en"><span class="gmail-"><br><br></span></span></div><div><span id="gmail-result_box" class="gmail-short_text" lang="en"><span class="gmail-">- I'll update info at openstack/releases repo soon and will try to do it in the right time while releasing new versions.<br></span></span></div><div><span id="gmail-result_box" class="gmail-short_text" lang="en"><span class="gmail-"><br>- Rally follows the rules described </span></span>by:<br>  * <a href="http://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/release-management.html#independent-release-model" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://docs.openstack.org/proj<wbr>ect-team-guide/release-managem<wbr>ent.html#independent-release-<wbr>model</a><br>  * <a href="http://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/release-management.html#release-process-for-other-projects">http://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/release-management.html#release-process-for-other-projects</a><br><br>    > OpenStack projects following a cycle-independent model can ... push signed tags by themselves.
</div><div><br></div><div>- There are no reasons to continue discussion dropping Rally. I can start a ton of topics like "Drop Nova" with similar "real" <br>  reasons.<br><br></div><div>- I'm not against the work done by OpenStack Release team. I had a good experience with that while working in not-Rally projects.<br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
Thanks,<br>
Dims<br>
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On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 9:15 AM, Andrey Kurilin <<a href="mailto:akurilin@mirantis.com" target="_blank">akurilin@mirantis.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Hi Dims!<br>
><br>
> I do not want to say except question "why you are proposing to do that?".<br>
><br>
> I tried to find any rules about releasing at<br>
> <a href="https://governance.openstack.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://governance.openstack.o<wbr>rg</a>, but I could not.<br>
> Please point me what rule I broke.<br>
><br>
> On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 3:57 PM, Davanum Srinivas <<a href="mailto:davanum@gmail.com" target="_blank">davanum@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Andrey, Rally team,<br>
>><br>
>> Do you want Rally to be dropped from Governance and Releases repository?<br>
>><br>
>> Thanks,<br>
>> Dims<br>
>><br>
>> On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 8:17 AM, Jeffrey Zhang <<a href="mailto:zhang.lei.fly@gmail.com" target="_blank">zhang.lei.fly@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>> > @Andrey, thanks for the explanation.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > The issue is: how can i know which tag works with certain OpenStack<br>
>> > branch?<br>
>> > For example, which tag<br>
>> > works with OpenStack Ocata release? There is no place recording this.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > I also found there are some other project do not use "project/releases"<br>
>> > project. May they are using<br>
>> > the same solution as rally.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 6:14 PM, Andrey Kurilin <<a href="mailto:akurilin@mirantis.com" target="_blank">akurilin@mirantis.com</a>><br>
>> > wrote:<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Hi Jeffrey,<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Rally team do not use "releases" repo at all, that is why information<br>
>> >> at<br>
>> >> [2] is outdated.<br>
>> >> Our release workflow is making a proper tag and pushing it via Gerrit.<br>
>> >> I<br>
>> >> find it more convenient.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 9:13 AM, Jeffrey Zhang<br>
>> >> <<a href="mailto:zhang.lei.fly@gmail.com" target="_blank">zhang.lei.fly@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> >> wrote:<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> Hey guys,<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> I found rally already releases its 0.8.1 tag from[0][1]. But<br>
>> >>> I found nothing in openstack/releases project[2]. How rally<br>
>> >>> create tag?<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> [0] <a href="http://tarballs.openstack.org/rally/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://tarballs.openstack.org/<wbr>rally/</a><br>
>> >>> [1] <a href="https://github.com/openstack/rally/releases" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/openstack/r<wbr>ally/releases</a><br>
>> >>> [2]<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> <a href="https://github.com/openstack/releases/blob/master/deliverables/_independent/rally.yaml#L45" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/openstack/r<wbr>eleases/blob/master/deliverabl<wbr>es/_independent/rally.yaml#L45</a><br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> --<br>
>> >>> Regards,<br>
>> >>> Jeffrey Zhang<br>
>> >>> Blog: <a href="http://xcodest.me" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://xcodest.me</a><br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>><br>
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