<div dir="ltr">We do not backport db changes, but if the existing migration does not work in certain circumstances, should not we fix it to make it work if it is possible?<br>This will allow to deploy new deployments with Newton code on Galera. </div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 6:45 PM Davanum Srinivas <<a href="mailto:davanum@gmail.com">davanum@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Please see <a href="http://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/stable-branches.html#review-guidelines" rel="noreferrer" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">http://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/stable-branches.html#review-guidelines</a><br class="gmail_msg">
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On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 9:34 AM, Davanum Srinivas <<a href="mailto:davanum@gmail.com" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">davanum@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class="gmail_msg">
> Newton is already shipped!<br class="gmail_msg">
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> -- Dims<br class="gmail_msg">
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> On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 9:23 AM, Kirill Proskurin<br class="gmail_msg">
> <<a href="mailto:kproskurin@mirantis.com" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">kproskurin@mirantis.com</a>> wrote:<br class="gmail_msg">
>> Galera only supported since Ocata?<br class="gmail_msg">
>><br class="gmail_msg">
>> On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 4:30 PM, Davanum Srinivas <<a href="mailto:davanum@gmail.com" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">davanum@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class="gmail_msg">
>>><br class="gmail_msg">
>>> Kirill,<br class="gmail_msg">
>>><br class="gmail_msg">
>>> "If OS wants support Galera, it needs to comply with the Galera<br class="gmail_msg">
>>> requirements" <<< This is true for master/ocata NOT Newton.<br class="gmail_msg">
>>><br class="gmail_msg">
>>> Ihar's response is perfectly acceptable thing to do for Newton in the<br class="gmail_msg">
>>> community to highlight the possibility of this situation. Downstream<br class="gmail_msg">
>>> folks can do what they need/have to do for Newton.<br class="gmail_msg">
>>><br class="gmail_msg">
>>> Thanks,<br class="gmail_msg">
>>> Dims<br class="gmail_msg">
>>><br class="gmail_msg">
>>> On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 4:49 AM, Kirill Proskurin<br class="gmail_msg">
>>> <<a href="mailto:kproskurin@mirantis.com" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">kproskurin@mirantis.com</a>> wrote:<br class="gmail_msg">
>>> > HI!<br class="gmail_msg">
>>> ><br class="gmail_msg">
>>> > Thing is, running Galera without enforcing it very bad idea for<br class="gmail_msg">
>>> > production<br class="gmail_msg">
>>> > use. Permissive mode was added more or less for testing purposes,<br class="gmail_msg">
>>> > running<br class="gmail_msg">
>>> > real production with it is dangerous, since it's not enforcing the<br class="gmail_msg">
>>> > mandatory<br class="gmail_msg">
>>> > Galera requirement, one of them is a "All tables must have a primary<br class="gmail_msg">
>>> > key".<br class="gmail_msg">
>>> > You cant disable a single check, you could only disable them all and<br class="gmail_msg">
>>> > this<br class="gmail_msg">
>>> > could lead to some serious problems, like data loss or corruption.<br class="gmail_msg">
>>> ><br class="gmail_msg">
>>> > If OS wants support Galera, it needs to comply with the Galera<br class="gmail_msg">
>>> > requirements.<br class="gmail_msg">
>>> ><br class="gmail_msg">
>>> > On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 9:59 PM, Ihar Hrachyshka <<a href="mailto:ihrachys@redhat.com" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">ihrachys@redhat.com</a>><br class="gmail_msg">
>>> > wrote:<br class="gmail_msg">
>>> >><br class="gmail_msg">
>>> >> An alternative could also be, for Newton and earlier, to release a<br class="gmail_msg">
>>> >> note saying that operators should not run the code against ENFORCING<br class="gmail_msg">
>>> >> galera mode. What are the reasons to enable that mode in OpenStack<br class="gmail_msg">
>>> >> scope that would not allow operators to live without it for another<br class="gmail_msg">
>>> >> cycle?<br class="gmail_msg">
>>> >><br class="gmail_msg">
>>> >> Ihar<br class="gmail_msg">
>>> >><br class="gmail_msg">
>>> >> On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 10:12 AM, Anna Taraday<br class="gmail_msg">
>>> >> <<a href="mailto:akamyshnikova@mirantis.com" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">akamyshnikova@mirantis.com</a>> wrote:<br class="gmail_msg">
>>> >> > Hello everyone!<br class="gmail_msg">
>>> >> ><br class="gmail_msg">
>>> >> > Guys in our team faced an issue when they try to run alembic<br class="gmail_msg">
>>> >> > migrations<br class="gmail_msg">
>>> >> > on<br class="gmail_msg">
>>> >> > Galera with ENFORCING mode. [1]<br class="gmail_msg">
>>> >> ><br class="gmail_msg">
>>> >> > This was an issue with Alembic [2], which was quickly fixed by Mike<br class="gmail_msg">
>>> >> > Bayer<br class="gmail_msg">
>>> >> > (many thanks!) and new version of alembic was resealed [3].<br class="gmail_msg">
>>> >> > The global requirements are updated [4].<br class="gmail_msg">
>>> >> ><br class="gmail_msg">
>>> >> > I think that it is desired to fix this for Newton at least. We cannot<br class="gmail_msg">
>>> >> > bump<br class="gmail_msg">
>>> >> > requirements for Newton, so hot fix can be putting pk on this table<br class="gmail_msg">
>>> >> > in<br class="gmail_msg">
>>> >> > the<br class="gmail_msg">
>>> >> > first migration like proposed [5].  Any other ideas?<br class="gmail_msg">
>>> >> ><br class="gmail_msg">
>>> >> > [1] - <a href="https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1655610" rel="noreferrer" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1655610</a><br class="gmail_msg">
>>> >> > [2] - <a href="https://bitbucket.org/zzzeek/alembic/issues/406" rel="noreferrer" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">https://bitbucket.org/zzzeek/alembic/issues/406</a><br class="gmail_msg">
>>> >> > [3] -<br class="gmail_msg">
>>> >> ><br class="gmail_msg">
>>> >> > <a href="http://alembic.zzzcomputing.com/en/latest/changelog.html#change-0.8.10" rel="noreferrer" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">http://alembic.zzzcomputing.com/en/latest/changelog.html#change-0.8.10</a><br class="gmail_msg">
>>> >> > [4] - <a href="https://review.openstack.org/#/c/423118/" rel="noreferrer" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">https://review.openstack.org/#/c/423118/</a><br class="gmail_msg">
>>> >> > [5] - <a href="https://review.openstack.org/#/c/419320/" rel="noreferrer" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">https://review.openstack.org/#/c/419320/</a><br class="gmail_msg">
>>> >> ><br class="gmail_msg">
>>> >> ><br class="gmail_msg">
>>> >> > --<br class="gmail_msg">
>>> >> > Regards,<br class="gmail_msg">
>>> >> > Ann Taraday<br class="gmail_msg">
>>> >> ><br class="gmail_msg">
>>> >> ><br class="gmail_msg">
>>> >> ><br class="gmail_msg">
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>>> >> ><br class="gmail_msg">
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>>> >><br class="gmail_msg">
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>>> >> <a href="http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev" rel="noreferrer" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev</a><br class="gmail_msg">
>>> ><br class="gmail_msg">
>>> ><br class="gmail_msg">
>>> ><br class="gmail_msg">
>>> ><br class="gmail_msg">
>>> > --<br class="gmail_msg">
>>> > Best regards,<br class="gmail_msg">
>>> > Proskurin Kirill<br class="gmail_msg">
>>> ><br class="gmail_msg">
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>>><br class="gmail_msg">
>>><br class="gmail_msg">
>>><br class="gmail_msg">
>>> --<br class="gmail_msg">
>>> Davanum Srinivas :: <a href="https://twitter.com/dims" rel="noreferrer" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/dims</a><br class="gmail_msg">
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>><br class="gmail_msg">
>> --<br class="gmail_msg">
>> Best regards,<br class="gmail_msg">
>> Proskurin Kirill<br class="gmail_msg">
>><br class="gmail_msg">
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> --<br class="gmail_msg">
> Davanum Srinivas :: <a href="https://twitter.com/dims" rel="noreferrer" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/dims</a><br class="gmail_msg">
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--<br class="gmail_msg">
Davanum Srinivas :: <a href="https://twitter.com/dims" rel="noreferrer" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/dims</a><br class="gmail_msg">
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</blockquote></div><div dir="ltr">-- <br></div><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr">Regards,<br>Ann Taraday</div></div>