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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Hi Paul,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Thanks for responding.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">> The fact gathering on every server is a compromise taken by Kolla to
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">> work around limitations in Ansible. It works well for the majority of
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">> situations; for more detail and potential improvements on this please
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">> have a read of this post: <o:p>
</o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">> <a href="http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-November/107833.html">
http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-November/107833.html</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">So my problem with this is the logging in to the compute nodes.  While this may be fine for a smaller deployment.  Logging into thousands, even hundreds, of nodes via ansible to gather facts, just to do a
 deployment against 2 or 3 of them is not tenable.  Additionally, in our higher audited environments (pki/pci) will cause our auditors heartburn.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">> I'm not quite following you here, the config templates from
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">> kolla-ansible are one of it's stronger pieces imo, they're reasonably
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">> well tested and maintained. What leads you to believe they shouldn't be
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">> used?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">> >     * Certain parts of it are 'reference only' (the config tasks),<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">>  >     are not recommended<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">> This is untrue - kolla-ansible is designed to stand up a stable and
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">> usable OpenStack 'out of the box'. There are definitely gaps in the
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">> operator type tasks as you've highlighted, but I would not call it
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">> ‘reference only'.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><a href="http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-kolla/%23openstack-kolla.2017-01-09.log.html#t2017-01-09T21:33:15">http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-kolla/%23openstack-kolla.2017-01-09.log.html#t2017-01-09T21:33:15</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">This is where we were told the config stuff was “reference only”?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">___________________________________________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Kris Lindgren<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Senior Linux Systems Engineer<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">GoDaddy</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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