<html><body><div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000"><div><br></div><div>Hi Jay, <span style="font-size: 12pt;" data-mce-style="font-size: 12pt;">I was asking because our discussions to contribute to nova-docker project ran across the discussions here to retire the project :)</span></div><div><br></div><div>Hongbin, that is exactly what I <span style="font-size: 12pt;" data-mce-style="font-size: 12pt;">meant. Using nova-docker it deploys containers to physical machines, not virtual machines. </span></div><div><span size="3" data-mce-style="font-size: medium;" style="font-size: medium;">Using Ironic driver with Magnum is a solution, but I guess every time creating a cluster with Magnum it will redeploy the operating system for the selected physical machine, which is not necessary.</span></div><div><font size="3"><span size="3" data-mce-style="font-size: medium;"></span>I will investigate Zun project more, thank you very much. What would you say for its current maturity level?</font></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><hr id="zwchr"><blockquote style="border-left:2px solid #1010FF;margin-left:5px;padding-left:5px;color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;" data-mce-style="border-left: 2px solid #1010FF; margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px; color: #000; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-family: Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><b>Kimden: </b>"Hongbin Lu" <hongbin034@gmail.com><br><b>Kime: </b>"OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" <openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org><br><b>Gönderilenler: </b>26 Aralık Pazartesi 2016 17:53:00<br><b>Konu: </b>Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][nova-docker] Time to retire nova-docker?<br><div><br></div><div dir="ltr">I guess "extra virtualization layer" means Magnum provisions a Container Orchestration Engines (COE) on top of nova instances. If the nova instances are virtual machines, there is a "extra virtualization layer".<div><br></div><div>I think you could consider using Magnum with Ironic driver. If the driver is Ironic, COEs are deployed to nova instances that are physical machines provided by Ironic. Zun project [1] could be another option for your use case. Zun is similar to nova-docker, which enables running containers on compute hosts. You could find a thoughtful introduction here [2].</div><div><br></div><div>[1] <a href="https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Zun" target="_blank" data-mce-href="https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Zun">https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Zun</a></div><div>[2] <a href="http://www.slideshare.net/hongbin034/zun-presentation-openstack-barcelona-summit" target="_blank" data-mce-href="http://www.slideshare.net/hongbin034/zun-presentation-openstack-barcelona-summit">http://www.slideshare.net/hongbin034/zun-presentation-openstack-barcelona-summit</a></div><div><br></div><div>Best regards,</div><div>Hongbin</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Dec 26, 2016 at 8:23 AM, Jay Pipes <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jaypipes@gmail.com" target="_blank" data-mce-href="mailto:jaypipes@gmail.com">jaypipes@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex" data-mce-style="margin: 0 0 0 .8ex; border-left: 1px #ccc solid; padding-left: 1ex;"><span class=""><span class="">On 12/26/2016 08:23 AM, Esra Celik wrote:<br></span></span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex" data-mce-style="margin: 0 0 0 .8ex; border-left: 1px #ccc solid; padding-left: 1ex;">Hi All,<br> <br> It is very sad to hear nova-docker's retirement. Me and my team (3) are<br> working for a cloud computing laboratory and we were very keen on<br> working with nova-docker.<br> After some research about its current state I saw these mails. Will you<br> actually propose another equivalent to nova-docker or is it just the<br> lack of contributors to this project?<br> Some of the contributors previously advised us the magnum project<br> instead of nova-docker, however it does not satisfy our needs because of<br> the additional virtualization layer it needs.<br> If the main problem is the lack of contributors we may participate in<br> this project.<br></blockquote>There's never any need to ask permission to contribute to a project :) If nova-docker driver is something you cannot do without, feel free to contribute to it.<br> <br> That said, Magnum does seem to be where most of the docker-related contributions to the compute landscape have moved. So, it's more likely you will find company in that project and perhaps be able to make more effective contributions there. Can I ask what is the "extra virtualization layer" that you are referring to in Magnum?<br> <br> Best,<br>-jay<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br> <br> __________________________________________________________________________<br> OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)<br> Unsubscribe: <a href="http://OpenStack-dev-request@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" data-mce-href="http://OpenStack-dev-request@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe">OpenStack-dev-request@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe</a><br> <a href="http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" data-mce-href="http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev">http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev</a><br></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div><br>__________________________________________________________________________<br>OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)<br>Unsubscribe: OpenStack-dev-request@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe<br>http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev<br></blockquote><div><br></div></div></body></html>