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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">The issue raised is they violate the 4 opens.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">From: </span>
</b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">Michał Jastrzębski <inc007@gmail.com><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>"OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" <openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org><br>
<b>Date: </b>Monday, December 12, 2016 at 8:09 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>"OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" <openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla][tc] Video Meetings - input requested<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I think video meetings Jeffrey is referring to are just that- quickly as hoc way to resolve some technical dispute or implementation. We did that few times to quickly work out kolla k8s issues. Hangouts are much more efficient way of discussions
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<p class="MsoNormal">My take on the issue is that we should use all tools available. Scheduling of such meetings would defeat their purpose of resolving things *quickly*. If something requires scheduling it should be done on our weekly meeting.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Video meetings are thing in Kolla k8s for one more reason- we want to move fast and scheduling meeting with proper heads up for every technical dispute (couple of these every week) would seriously impede our ability to deliver. Ocata is
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<p class="MsoNormal">Tldr; ad hoc video meetings are good for quickly paced dev like in Kolla k8s imho<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Cheers<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Michał<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Dec 12, 2016 12:36 PM, "Ed Leafe" <<a href="mailto:ed@leafe.com">ed@leafe.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">On Dec 12, 2016, at 11:16 AM, Jeffrey Zhang <<a href="mailto:zhang.lei.fly@gmail.com">zhang.lei.fly@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Some contributors in kolla have had unscheduled video meetings. This has<br>
> resulted in complaints about inclusiveness. Some contributors can’t even make<br>
> the meeting we have, and another scheduled video meeting might produce a<br>
> situation in which there is no any record of decisions made during the video<br>
> meeting. At least with IRC meetings there is always a log.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Occasionally a quick Google hangout is necessary in Nova in order to quickly settle an outstanding issue so we can continue to make progress. When that happens, the link is posted in the #openstack-nova channel, and anyone who is interested
can join. So while it’s not logged like an IRC meeting, it’s no excluding anyone, and we can quickly remove roadblocks that are harder to do in IRC.<br>
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