<div dir="ltr">Good point, I'll add that as an action item to the etherpad. I think someone did bring that up in the meeting, I think it was Adam [0].<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>[0] <a href="http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-keystone/%23openstack-keystone.2016-11-16.log.html#t2016-11-16T17:04:54">http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-keystone/%23openstack-keystone.2016-11-16.log.html#t2016-11-16T17:04:54</a></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 12:16 PM, Steve Martinelli <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:s.martinelli@gmail.com" target="_blank">s.martinelli@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">May I could suggest another action item? I think we need clear use cases. What policy and authorization capabilities are users expecting keystone to have? What are the short-comings of the implementation we have today?</div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 1:06 PM, Lance Bragstad <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lbragstad@gmail.com" target="_blank">lbragstad@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">We had some issues using Hangouts because we hit the maximum limit of attendees. To make it so that everyone could participate equally, we moved the meeting to #openstack-keystone [0]. I have an action item to propose an official meeting to the irc-meetings repository. Patch for the meeting is currently up for review and it will be at the same time, but in #openstack-meeting-cp instead of #openstack-keystone [1]. We do have a list of action items we came up with during the meeting:<div><ul><li>ACTION ITEM: ayoung to repropose <a href="https://review.openstack.org/#/c/391624/" target="_blank">https://review.openstack.org/#<wbr>/c/391624/</a></li><li>ACTION ITEM: lbragstad to create an official meeting</li><ul><li>Done: <a href="https://review.openstack.org/#/c/398500/" target="_blank">https://review.openstack.org/#<wbr>/c/398500/</a></li></ul><li>ACTION ITEM: the entire group to get familiar with Apache Fortress</li><ul><li>Docs: <a href="http://directory.apache.org/fortress/" target="_blank">http://directory.apache.org/fo<wbr>rtress/</a></li><li>Example: <a href="http://xuctarine.blogspot.ru/2016/08/apache-fortress-easiest-way-to-get-full.html" target="_blank">http://xuctarine.blogspot.ru/2<wbr>016/08/apache-fortress-easiest<wbr>-way-to-get-full.html</a></li></ul><li>ACTION ITEM: the entire group to get familiar with OpenStack congress</li><ul><li>Docs: <a href="https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Congress" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstack.org/wik<wbr>i/Congress</a></li></ul><li>ACTION ITEM: the entire group to get familiar with <a href="https://github.com/admiyo/keystone/tree/url_patterns" target="_blank">https://github.com/admiyo/keys<wbr>tone/tree/url_patterns</a><br></li></ul><div>The first item on the agenda will be following up on any action items from previous meetings. I've already bootstrapped the next agenda in the meeting etherpad [2]. Thanks again to everyone who attended and I look forward to next week's meeting.</div><div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>[0] <a href="http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-keystone/%23openstack-keystone.2016-11-16.log.html#t2016-11-16T16:01:43" target="_blank">http://eavesdrop.openstack<wbr>.org/irclogs/%23openstack-<wbr>keystone/%23openstack-<wbr>keystone.2016-11-16.log.html#<wbr>t2016-11-16T16:01:43</a></div><div>[1] <a href="https://review.openstack.org/#/c/398500/" target="_blank">https://review.openstack.o<wbr>rg/#/c/398500/</a></div></div></div><div>[2] <a href="https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-policy-meeting" target="_blank">https://etherpad.openstack<wbr>.org/p/keystone-policy-meeting</a></div></div><div class="m_-9035369115636043564HOEnZb"><div class="m_-9035369115636043564h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 8:32 AM, Lance Bragstad <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lbragstad@gmail.com" target="_blank">lbragstad@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Just sending out a reminder that we'll be having our first meeting in 90 minutes. You can find all information about our agenda in the etherpad [0] as well as a link to the hangout [1]. <div><br></div><div>See you there!</div><div><br></div><div>[0] <a href="https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-policy-meeting" target="_blank">https://etherpad.openstack<wbr>.org/p/keystone-policy-meeting</a></div><div>[1] <a href="https://hangouts.google.com/call/pd36j4qv5zfbldmhxeeatq6f7ae" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;white-space:pre-wrap;font-family:"helvetica neue",arial,sans-serif;font-size:12px" target="_blank">https://hangouts.google.co<wbr>m/call/pd36j4qv5zfbldmhxeeatq6<wbr>f7ae</a></div><div><br></div></div><div class="m_-9035369115636043564m_4252759304653790325HOEnZb"><div class="m_-9035369115636043564m_4252759304653790325h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 8:33 AM, Lance Bragstad <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lbragstad@gmail.com" target="_blank">lbragstad@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I've added some initial content to the etherpad [0], to get things rolling. Since this is going to be a recurring thing, I'd like our first meeting to level set the playing field for everyone. Let's spend some time getting familiar with policy concepts, understand exactly how OpenStack policy works today, then we can start working on writing down what we like and don't like about the existing implementation. I'm sure most people interested in this work will already be familiar with the problem, but I want to make it easy for folks who aren't to ramp up quickly and get them into the discussion.<div><br></div><div>Some have already started contributing to the etherpad! I've slowly started massaging that information into our first agenda. I'll continue to do so and send out another email on Tuesday as a reminder to familiarize yourselves with the etherpad before the meeting.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Thanks!</div><div><br></div><div><div><div><br></div><div>[0] <a href="https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-policy-meeting" target="_blank">https://etherpad.openstack<wbr>.org/p/keystone-policy-meeting</a></div></div></div></div><div class="m_-9035369115636043564m_4252759304653790325m_5721314954367975177HOEnZb"><div class="m_-9035369115636043564m_4252759304653790325m_5721314954367975177h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 2:36 PM, Steve Martinelli <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:s.martinelli@gmail.com" target="_blank">s.martinelli@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Thanks for taking the initiative Lance! It'll be great to hear some ideas that are capable of making policy more fine grained, and keeping things backwards compatible.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="m_-9035369115636043564m_4252759304653790325m_5721314954367975177m_7680503770165682920h5">On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 3:30 PM, Lance Bragstad <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lbragstad@gmail.com" target="_blank">lbragstad@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="m_-9035369115636043564m_4252759304653790325m_5721314954367975177m_7680503770165682920h5"><div dir="ltr"><font color="#000000">Hi folks, </font><div><font color="#000000"><br></font></div><div><font color="#000000">After hearing the recaps from the summit, it sounds like policy was a hot topic (per usual). This is also reinforced by the fact every release we have specifications proposed to re-do policy in some way.</font></div><div><font color="#000000"><br></font></div><div><font color="#000000">It's no doubt policy in OpenStack needs work. Let's dedicate an hour a week to policy, analyze what we have currently, design an ideal solution, and aim for that. We can bring our progress to the PTG in Atlanta.</font></div><div><font color="#000000"><br></font></div><div><font color="#000000">We'll hold the meeting openly using Google Hangouts and record our notes using etherpad. </font></div><div><font color="#000000"><br></font></div><div><font color="#000000">Our first meeting will be </font><span style="color:rgb(50,50,50);text-align:center">Wednesday, November 16th from 10:00 AM – 11:00 AM Central (16:00 - 17:00 UTC) and it will reoccur weekly.</span></div><div><font color="#000000"><br></font></div><div>Hangout: <span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:13px"><a href="https://hangouts.google.com/call/pd36j4qv5zfbldmhxeeatq6f7ae" target="_blank">https://hangouts.goog<wbr>le.com/call/pd36j4qv5zfbldmhxe<wbr>eatq6f7ae</a></span></div><table class="m_-9035369115636043564m_4252759304653790325m_5721314954367975177m_7680503770165682920m_-5826632915169921289m_-211398789760093867gmail-neb-data" cellspacing="0" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><tbody></tbody></table><div><font color="#000000">Etherpad: <a href="https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-policy-meeting" target="_blank">https://etherpad.ope<wbr>nstack.org/p/keystone-policy-m<wbr>eeting</a></font></div><div><br></div><div>Let me know if you have any other questions, comments or concerns. I look forward to the first meeting! </div><span class="m_-9035369115636043564m_4252759304653790325m_5721314954367975177m_7680503770165682920m_-5826632915169921289HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div>Lance</div></font></span></div>
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