<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 3:14 AM, Chris Dent <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cdent+os@anticdent.org" target="_blank">cdent+os@anticdent.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class="">On Tue, 8 Nov 2016, Ash wrote:<br>
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I couldn't agree more. I don't like change for the sake of change (in any<br>
aspect of my life). So in my mind this would have to be a way to better<br>
bind us.<br>
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Here, have some tortured metaphors:<br>
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Something that feels like it gets under-emphasised in this conversation<br>
is that change is coming whatever we do. As a community we can either<br>
move quickly and stay ahead of the change and see it as a productive<br>
development that we can surf or we can dilly dally and get drowned by a<br>
wave that collapses over us.<br>
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Ecosystems must evolve and change because the world evolves and changes.<br>
If we try to control this stuff too much what we will be doing is taking<br>
the oxygen out of the system and snuffing the flame of excitement and<br>
innovation.<br>
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As a community we don't want to be bound together by rules, we want<br>
to be enabled by processes that support making and doing things<br>
effectively. The things that we make and do is what binds us<br>
together.<br>
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The conversations about additional languages in this community have<br>
been one our most alarmingly regressive and patronizing. They seem<br>
to be bred out of fear rather than hope and out of lack of faith in<br>
each other than in trust. We've got people who want to build stuff.<br>
Isn't that the important part?<br>
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Let's just get on with making stuff and work out the problems (and of<br>
course there will be many, there always are) as they happen. That's<br>
what we do.<br></blockquote></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Agreed, Chris. I think this topic has reflected quite poorly on OpenStack, so far.</div><div><br></div>-- <br><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Russell Bryant</font></div></div></div></div></div>
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