<div dir="ltr">The people working on the migration are ensuring API compatibility and are even leaving in a shim on the Neutron side for some time so you don't even have to change endpoints initially. It should be a seamless change.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 12:28 PM, Fox, Kevin M <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Kevin.Fox@pnnl.gov" target="_blank">Kevin.Fox@pnnl.gov</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div style="direction:ltr;font-family:Tahoma;color:#000000;font-size:10pt">Just please don't make this a lbv3 thing that completely breaks compatibility of existing lb's yet again. If its just an "point url endpoint from thing like x to thing like y" in
one place, thats ok. I still have v1 lb's in existence though I have to deal with and a backwards incompatible v3 would just cause me to abandon lbaas all together I think as it would show the lbaas stuff is just not maintainable.<br>
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Thanks,<br>
Kevin<br>
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Hi,<br>
What about neutron-lbaas project? Is this project still alive and kicking to the merge is done or are we going to continue to maintain it? I feel like we are between a rock and a hard place here. LBaaS is in production and it is not clear the migration process.
Will Octavia have the same DB models as LBaaS or will there be a migration?<br>
Sorry for the pessimism but I feel that things are very unclear and that we cannot even indicate to our community/consumers what to use/expect.<br>
Thanks<br>
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On 11/8/16, 1:36 AM, "Michael Johnson" <<a href="mailto:johnsomor@gmail.com" target="_blank">johnsomor@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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Ocata LBaaS retrospective and next steps recap<br>
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This session lightly touched on the work in the newton cycle, but<br>
primarily focused on planning for the Ocata release and the LBaaS spin<br>
out of neutron and merge into the octavia project [1]. Notes were<br>
captured on the etherpad [1].<br>
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The focus of work for Ocata in neutron-lbaas and octavia will be on<br>
the spin out/merge and not new features.<br>
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Work has started on merging neutron-lbaas into the octavia project<br>
with API sorting/pagination, quota support, keystone integration,<br>
neutron-lbaas driver shim, and documentation updates. Work is still<br>
needed for policy support, the API shim to handle capability gaps<br>
(example: stats are by listener in octavia, but by load balancer in<br>
neturon-lbaas), neutron api proxy, a database migration script from<br>
the neutron database to the octavia database for existing non-octavia<br>
load balancers, and adding the "bug for bug" neutron-lbaas v2 API to<br>
the octavia API server.<br>
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The room agreed that since we will have a shim/proxy in neutron for<br>
some time, updating the OpenStack client can be deferred to a future<br>
cycle.<br>
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There is a lot of concern about Ocata being a short cycle and the<br>
amount of work to be done. There is hope that additional resources<br>
will help out with this task to allow us to complete the spin<br>
out/merge for Ocata.<br>
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We discussed the current state of the active/active topology patches<br>
and agreed that it is unlikely this will merge in Ocata. There are a<br>
lot of open comments and work to do on the patches. It appears that<br>
these patches may have been created against an old release and require<br>
significant updating.<br>
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Finally there was a question about when octavia would implement<br>
metadata tags. When we dug into the need for the tags we found that<br>
what was really wanted is a full implementation of the flavors<br>
framework [3] [4]. Some vendors expressed interest in finishing the<br>
flavors framework for Octavia.<br>
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Thank you to everyone that participated in our design session and etherpad.<br>
<br>
Michael<br>
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[1] <a href="https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/neutron-specs/specs/newton/kill-neutron-lbaas.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">
https://specs.openstack.org/op<wbr>enstack/neutron-specs/specs/ne<wbr>wton/kill-neutron-lbaas.html</a><br>
[2] <a href="https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-neutron-octavia-lbaas-session" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">
https://etherpad.openstack.org<wbr>/p/ocata-neutron-octavia-lbaas<wbr>-session</a><br>
[3] <a href="https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/neutron-specs/specs/mitaka/neutron-flavor-framework-templates.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">
https://specs.openstack.org/op<wbr>enstack/neutron-specs/specs/mi<wbr>taka/neutron-flavor-framework-<wbr>templates.html</a><br>
[4] <a href="https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/neutron-specs/specs/liberty/neutron-flavor-framework.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">
https://specs.openstack.org/op<wbr>enstack/neutron-specs/specs/li<wbr>berty/neutron-flavor-framework<wbr>.html</a><br>
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