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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">The general rule I follow (and would propose we stick to) is is as follows:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">If it requires a backport – it requires a bug id. (This is to facilitate the tracking of backports to make sure we do the job correctly)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">If it doesn’t require a backport but is a feature submission, it should include a blueprint header (for tracking purposes, yet again)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">If it doesn’t fit into the above two categories, I really don’t see a need for any type of extra tagging including TrivialFix. TrivialFix was a nice idea to help core reviewers understand
if the work needed a backport, or was a feature request. Our core reviewer team is smart enough to make that determination during the very thorough review process we undertake on all patches.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">TrivialFix can go assuming the core reviewers can determine what is needed for a backport (high/critical bugs only) – and request a bug ID during the review with an appropriate -1.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">-steve<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">From: </span>
</b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">Swapnil Kulkarni <coolsvap@gmail.com><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>"OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" <openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org><br>
<b>Date: </b>Friday, November 4, 2016 at 10:50 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>"OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" <openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla] Propose removal of TrivialFix requirement<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 10:01 PM, Jeremy Stanley <<a href="mailto:fungi@yuggoth.org">fungi@yuggoth.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">On 2016-11-04 15:42:17 +0000 (+0000), Paul Bourke wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">We have no desire to do this, that's not what is being discussed<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">here. On the contrary we're looking to reduce the barrier to entry<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">for committers. Also the team is aware that cross project efforts<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">That's what it seemed like to me up to this point in the thread as<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">well; I was specifically replying to Swapnil's suggestion that any<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">important change to Kolla deliverables should have a bug filed or<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">should continue to add a TrivialFix header in the commit message<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">otherwise. (And yes, as Andreas pointed out the other thread on the<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">related topic of mass changes for cross-project efforts does address<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">the case specifically, but becomes less necessary if you end up<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">agreeing to drop the TrivialFix requirement.)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">Jeremy Stanley<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">Jeremy,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">I am sorry if I have miscommunicated earlier. I am referring to the<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">situation where people are using TrivialFix just to get the changes in<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">which is not good practice.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">I agree with removing TrivialFix just that we need to be very careful<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Consolas;color:black">with changes that need tracking (e.g. bug/bp).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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