<div dir="ltr">There are a number of drivers that require closed-source tools to communicate with the storage. 3 others that I've come across recently:<div><ul><li>EMC VNX: requires Navisphere CLI v7.32 or higher<br></li><li>Hitachi storage volume driver: requires RAID Manager Ver 01-32-03/01 or later for VSP G1000/VSP/HUS VM, Hitachi Storage Navigator Modular 2 (HSNM2) Ver 27.50 or later for HUS 100 Family</li><li>Infortrend driver: requires raidcmd ESDS10</li></ul><div class="gmail_extra">Many appliances support REST, SSH, or something similar, but some still use proprietary protocols/tools available only as binaries to customers.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Thanks,</div><div class="gmail_extra">Avishay</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 12:37 AM, Matt Riedemann <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mriedem@linux.vnet.ibm.com" target="_blank">mriedem@linux.vnet.ibm.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On 9/7/2016 8:47 AM, John Griffith wrote:<br>
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On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 9:27 AM, Alon Marx <<a href="mailto:ALONMA@il.ibm.com" target="_blank">ALONMA@il.ibm.com</a><br>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:ALONMA@il.ibm.com" target="_blank">ALONMA@il.ibm.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
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I want to share our plans to open the IBM Storage driver source<br>
code. Historically we started our way in cinder way back (in Essex<br>
if I'm not mistaken)<br>
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You're mistaken, Cinder didn't exist at that time... but it's irrelevant.<br>
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with just a small piece of code in the community while keeping most<br>
of the driver code closed. Since then the code has grown, but we<br>
kept with the same format. We would like now to open the driver<br>
source code, while keeping the connectivity to the storage as closed<br>
source.<br>
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It might help to know *which* driver you are referring to. IBM has a<br>
number of Storwiz and GPFS drivers in Cinder... what drivers are you<br>
referring to here?<br>
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I believe that there are other cinder drivers that have some stuff<br>
in proprietary libraries.<br>
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Actually we've had a hard stance on this, if you have code in Cinder<br>
that requires an external lib (I personally hate this model) we<br>
typically require it to be open source.<br>
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I want to propose and formalize the principles to where we draw the<br>
line (this has also been discussed in<br>
<a href="https://review.openstack.org/#/c/341780/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://review.openstack.org/#<wbr>/c/341780/</a><br>
<<a href="https://review.openstack.org/#/c/341780/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://review.openstack.org/<wbr>#/c/341780/</a>>) on what's acceptable by<br>
the community.<br>
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Based on previous discussion I understand that the rule of thumb is<br>
"as long as the majority of the driver logic is in the public<br>
driver" the community would be fine with that. Is this acceptable to<br>
the community?<br>
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No, I don't think that's true. It's quite possible that some people<br>
make those sorts of statements but frankly their missing the entire point.<br>
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In case you weren't aware, OpenStack IS an OPEN SOURCE project, not a<br>
proprietary or hybrid project. We are VERY clear as a community about<br>
that fact and what we call the "4 Opens" [1]. It's my opinion that if<br>
you're in then you're ALL in.<br>
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[1]: <a href="https://governance.openstack.org/reference/opens.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://governance.openstack.o<wbr>rg/reference/opens.html</a><br>
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Regards,<br>
Alon<br>
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I'm assuming this is the XIV driver which is a shim:<br>
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<a href="https://github.com/openstack/cinder/blob/master/cinder/volume/drivers/ibm/ibm_storage.py" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/openstack/c<wbr>inder/blob/master/cinder/volum<wbr>e/drivers/ibm/ibm_storage.py</a><br>
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As for the open source part of it, vcenter isn't open source but there is a vmdk driver to talk to it, I imagine this is similar.<span class="gmail-HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
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