<html>
  <head>
    <meta content="text/html; charset=windows-1252"
      http-equiv="Content-Type">
  </head>
  <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 06/28/2016 08:33 PM, Steve
      Martinelli wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote
cite="mid:CAHc_MXGGFKNr4VTFpFmi2wo7oF1mQ_0LGPJUcvWx4OfDXWYbBA@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">
      <div dir="ltr">I'm cool with the existing keystone repo and adding
        to docs. If we hit a huge amount of content then we can migrate
        to a new repo. I think Adam's main concern with this approach is
        that we reduce the contributors down to folks that know the
        gerrit workflow.</div>
    </blockquote>
    <br>
    We don't want a static troubleshooting guide.  We want people to be
    able to ask questionss and link them to answers, have community
    members add their own answer...in short, what we hae in
    "ask.openstack" now, but not well done or maintained.<br>
    <br>
    Its often not a Keystone problem, but a Nova, Glance etc problem. 
    We can't stick the Answer in a Keystone repo.<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <blockquote
cite="mid:CAHc_MXGGFKNr4VTFpFmi2wo7oF1mQ_0LGPJUcvWx4OfDXWYbBA@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">
      <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 8:19 PM, Jamie
          Lennox <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:jamielennox@gmail.com" target="_blank">jamielennox@gmail.com</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
            .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
            <div dir="ltr"><br>
              <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                <div class="gmail_quote"><span class="">On 29 June 2016
                    at 09:49, Steve Martinelli <span dir="ltr"><<a
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:s.martinelli@gmail.com"
                        target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:s.martinelli@gmail.com">s.martinelli@gmail.com</a></a>></span>
                    wrote:<br>
                    <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
                      .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                      <div dir="ltr">I think we want something a bit
                        more organized.
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>Morgan tossed the idea of a keystone-docs
                          repo, which could have:</div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>- The FAQ Adam is asking about</div>
                        <div>- Install guides (moved over from
                          openstack-manuals)</div>
                        <div>- A spot for all those neat and unofficial
                          blog posts we do</div>
                        <div>- How-to guides</div>
                        <div>- etc...</div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>I think it's a neat idea and warrants some
                          discussion. Of course, we don't want to be the
                          odd project out.</div>
                      </div>
                    </blockquote>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                  </span>
                  <div>What would be the advantage of a new repo rather
                    than just using the keystone/docs folder. My concern
                    is that docs/ already gets stagnate but a new repo
                    would end up being largely ignored and at least
                    theoretically you can update docs/ when the relevant
                    code changes. <br>
                     <br>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <div class="h5">
                      <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0
                        0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc
                        solid;padding-left:1ex">
                        <div>
                          <div>
                            <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                              <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 28,
                                2016 at 6:00 PM, Ian Cordasco <span
                                  dir="ltr"><<a
                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    href="mailto:sigmavirus24@gmail.com"
                                    target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:sigmavirus24@gmail.com">sigmavirus24@gmail.com</a></a>></span>
                                wrote:<br>
                                <blockquote class="gmail_quote"
                                  style="margin:0 0 0
                                  .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc
                                  solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                  <div>
                                    <div>-----Original Message-----<br>
                                      From: Adam Young <<a
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="mailto:ayoung@redhat.com"
                                        target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ayoung@redhat.com">ayoung@redhat.com</a></a>><br>
                                      Reply: OpenStack Development
                                      Mailing List (not for usage
                                      questions)<br>
                                      <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org"
                                        target="_blank">openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org</a>><br>
                                      Date: June 28, 2016 at 16:47:26<br>
                                      To: OpenStack Development Mailing
                                      List <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org" target="_blank">openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org</a>><br>
                                      Subject:  [openstack-dev]
                                      Troubleshooting and <a
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="http://ask.openstack.org"
                                        rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">ask.openstack.org</a><br>
                                      <br>
                                      > Recently, the Keystone team
                                      started brainstormin a
                                      troubleshooting<br>
                                      > document. While we could,
                                      eventually put this into the
                                      Keystone repo,<br>
                                      > it makes sense to also be
                                      gathering troubleshooting ideas
                                      from the<br>
                                      > community at large. How do we
                                      do this?<br>
                                      ><br>
                                      > I think we've had a long
                                      enough run with the <a
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="http://ask.openstack.org"
                                        rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">ask.openstack.org</a>
                                      website<br>
                                      > to determine if it is really
                                      useful, and if it needs an update.<br>
                                      ><br>
                                      ><br>
                                      > I know we getting nuked on
                                      the Wiki. What I would like to be
                                      able to<br>
                                      > generate is Frequently Asked
                                      Questions (FAQ) page, but as a
                                      living<br>
                                      > document.<br>
                                      ><br>
                                      > I think that <a
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="http://ask.openstack.org"
                                        rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">ask.openstack.org</a>
                                      is the right forum for this, but
                                      we need<br>
                                      > some more help:<br>
                                      ><br>
                                      > It seems to me that keystone
                                      Core should be able to moderate
                                      Keystone<br>
                                      > questions on the site. That
                                      means that they should be able to
                                      remove<br>
                                      > old dead ones, remove things
                                      tagged as Keystone that do not
                                      apply and so<br>
                                      > on. I would assume the same
                                      is true for Nova, Glance, Trove,
                                      Mistral<br>
                                      > and all the rest.<br>
                                      ><br>
                                      > We need some better top level
                                      interface than just the tags,
                                      though.<br>
                                      > Ideally we would have a page
                                      where someone lands when
                                      troubleshooting<br>
                                      > keystone with a series of
                                      questions and links to the
                                      discussion pages<br>
                                      > for that question. Like:<br>
                                      ><br>
                                      ><br>
                                      > I get an error that says
                                      "cannot authenticate" what do I
                                      do?<br>
                                      ><br>
                                      > What is the Engine behind "<a
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="http://ask.openstack.org"
                                        rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">ask.openstack.org</a>?"
                                      does it have other tools<br>
                                      > we could use?<br>
                                      <br>
                                    </div>
                                  </div>
                                  The engine is linked in the footer: <a
                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    href="https://askbot.com/"
                                    rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://askbot.com/">https://askbot.com/</a></a><br>
                                  <br>
                                  I'm not sure how much of it is
                                  reusable but it claims to be able to
                                  do<br>
                                  some of the things I think you're
                                  asking for except it doesn't<br>
                                  explicitly mention deleting
                                  comments/questions/etc.<br>
                                  <br>
                                  --<br>
                                  Ian Cordasco<br>
                                  <div>
                                    <div><br>
__________________________________________________________________________<br>
                                      OpenStack Development Mailing List
                                      (not for usage questions)<br>
                                      Unsubscribe: <a
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://OpenStack-dev-request@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe"
                                        rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:OpenStack-dev-request@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe">OpenStack-dev-request@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe</a></a><br>
                                      <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev"
                                        rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev</a><br>
                                    </div>
                                  </div>
                                </blockquote>
                              </div>
                              <br>
                            </div>
                          </div>
                        </div>
                        <br>
__________________________________________________________________________<br>
                        OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for
                        usage questions)<br>
                        Unsubscribe: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://OpenStack-dev-request@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe"
                          rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">OpenStack-dev-request@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe</a><br>
                        <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev"
                          rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev</a><br>
                        <br>
                      </blockquote>
                    </div>
                  </div>
                </div>
                <br>
              </div>
            </div>
            <br>
__________________________________________________________________________<br>
            OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)<br>
            Unsubscribe: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://OpenStack-dev-request@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe"
              rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">OpenStack-dev-request@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe</a><br>
            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev"
              rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev</a><br>
            <br>
          </blockquote>
        </div>
        <br>
      </div>
      <br>
      <fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
      <br>
      <pre wrap="">__________________________________________________________________________
OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
Unsubscribe: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:OpenStack-dev-request@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe">OpenStack-dev-request@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev">http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev</a>
</pre>
    </blockquote>
    <p><br>
    </p>
  </body>
</html>