<div dir="ltr"><div><div>Hi,<br></div>raising again the question about tempest running on TripleO CI as it was discussed in the last TripleO meeting.<br></div><div><br>I'd like to get your attention that in these tests, which I ran just for ensure it works, there were bugs discovered, and these weren't corner cases but real failures of TripleO installation. Like this one for Sahara: <a href="https://review.openstack.org/#/c/309042/">https://review.openstack.org/#/c/309042/</a><br></div><div>I'm sorry, I should have prepared these bugs for the meeting as proofs for testing value.<br></div><div><br>The second issue that was blocker before is a wall time and now, as we can see from jobs length, after HW upgrade of CI - is not an issue anymore. We can run tempest without any fear to get into timeout problem, "nonha" job for sure, as most short from all.<br></div><div><br>So I'd insist on running tempest exactly on promoting job in order not to promote images with bugs, especially the critical like the whole service not available at all. The pingtest is not enough for this purpose as we can see from the bugs above, it checks very basic things and not all services are covered. I think we aren't interested just to see the jobs green, but sticking for the basic working functionality and quality of promoting. Maybe it's influence of my previous QA roles, but I don't see any value to promote something with bugs.<br><br></div><div>The point about CI stability - the last issues that CI faces now are not so connected to tempest tests or CI code at all, it's bugs of underlying projects and whether tempest will run or not doesn't really matters in this case. These issues fail everything yet before any testing starts. Indication of such issues before they leak into TripleO is different topic and approach.<br><br></div><div>So my main point for running tempest tests on "nonha" periodic jobs is:<br></div><div>Quality and guaranteed basic functionality of installed overcloud services. At least all of them are up and can accept connections. Avoid and early discover critical bugs that are not seen in pingtest. I remind that we going to run the only smoke tests, which takes not much time and check the basic functionality only. <br><br>P.S. If there is interest, we can run the whole tempest set or specific sets in experimental or third-party jobs just for indication. And I mean not only tempest tests, but project scenario tests as well, for example Heat integration tests. Both for undercloud and overcloud.<br><br></div><div>P.P.S Just ping me if you have any unclear points or would like to discuss it in separate meeting, I'll give the all required info.<br></div><div><div><div><div><br></div><div>Thanks<br></div><div>-- <br><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div>Best regards<br></div>Sagi Shnaidman<br></div></div>
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