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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 05/01/2016 05:03 PM, Steven Dake
(stdake) wrote:<br>
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<div>Ryan had rightly pointed out that when we made the original
proposal 9am morning we had asked folks if they wanted to
participate in a
<span style="font-weight: bold;">separate</span> repository.</div>
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In Keystone, we are going to more and more repositories all the
time. We started with everything in Keystone server, then split out
the python-keystoneclient repo, then keystonemiddleware, and now
keystoneauth. Kerberos requires a separate auth repo, too, just due
to package dependencies. Multiple repos are not a bad thing. The
Policy store, and the drivers behind identity are all candidates
for future refactoring.<br>
<br>
Splitting a repo is not a big deal, but it is easier to do up front
than to retool.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
I think starting with a separate, but supported repository makes
things much easier.<br>
<br>
Kolla is 2 things:<br>
<br>
1. Creation of Containers for deploying the base openstack
services.<br>
2. Actual deployment of the same<br>
<br>
I would argue that the architecture for this should be something
like 4 repos:<br>
<br>
1. Container production. Assuming a single toolchain here.<br>
2. Kubernetes deploy<br>
3. Ansible deploy<br>
4. Mesos deploy<br>
5. kolla-deploy-common.<br>
<br>
Python in general makes it hard to have more than one upstream
library from a repo, so you really want to think about what it looks
like from PyPi first and organize based on that.<br>
<br>
If anything can be pulled out into its own repo, it should.<br>
<br>
Yeah, it makes development a bit more of a pain, but there are ways
to mitigate that. git subprojects might be a painful one, but it is
not the the only approach.<br>
<br>
Over time, I would expect both the Ansible and Kubernetes repos
themselves to be split into finer repos, with Ansible plugins and
Kubernetes modules being separately managed.<br>
<br>
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<div>I don't think a separate repository is the correct approach
based upon one off private conversations with folks at summit.
Many people from that list approached me and indicated they
would like to see the work integrated in one repository as
outlined in my vote proposal email. The reasons I heard were:</div>
<ul>
<li>Better integration of the community</li>
<li>Better integration of the code base</li>
<li>Doesn't present an us vs them mentality that one could argue
happened during kolla-mesos</li>
<li>A second repository makes k8s a second class citizen
deployment architecture without a voice in the full deployment
methodology</li>
<li>Two gating methods versus one</li>
<li>No going back to a unified repository while preserving git
history</li>
</ul>
<div>I favor of the separate repositories I heard</div>
<ul>
<li>It presents a unified workspace for kubernetes alone</li>
<li>Packaging without ansible is simpler as the ansible
directory need not be deleted</li>
</ul>
<div>There were other complaints but not many pros. Unfortunately
I failed to communicate these complaints to the core team prior
to the vote, so now is the time for fixing that.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I'll leave it open to the new folks that want to do the work
if they want to work on an offshoot repository and open us up to
the possible problems above.</div>
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<div>If you are on this list:</div>
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<div>Please speak up if you are in favor of a separate repository
or a unified repository.</div>
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<div>The core reviewers will still take responsibility for
determining if we proceed on the action of implementing
kubernetes in general.</div>
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<div>Thank you</div>
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