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<div style="direction:ltr;font-family:Tahoma;color:#000000;font-size:10pt;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1461086532038_175755">I'm kind of uncomfortable as an op with the prebundled stuff. how do you upgrade things when needed if there is no way to pull updated images from a central place?<br clear="none">
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 19, 2016 11:56 AM<br clear="none">
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [openstack-dev] [Magnum]Cache docker images<br clear="none">
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<div class="yiv4843844425MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">The approach of pre-pulling docker images has a problem. It only works for specific docker storage driver. In comparison, the tar file approach is portable
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<div class="yiv4843844425MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">Best regards,</span></div>
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<b>Sent:</b> April-19-16 4:26 AM<br clear="none">
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<div class="yiv4843844425MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;">hi hello again<br clear="none">
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I believe you are talking about this bp <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/cache-docker-images">
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then ignore my previous reply, that may another topic to solve network limited problem.<br clear="none">
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I think you are on the right way to build docker images but this image could only bootstrap by cloud-init, without cloud-init<br clear="none">
the container image tar file are not loaded at all, but seems this may not be the best way.<br clear="none">
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I'v suggest that may be the best way is we pull docker images while building atomic-image. Per my understanding, the<br clear="none">
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we can do some custome operation there.<br clear="none">
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I can do a try on the build progress(guess rpm-ostree should support some hook scripts)<br clear="none">
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<div class="yiv4843844425MsoNormal">On 2016<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family:SimSun;">年</span>04<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family:SimSun;">月</span>19<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family:SimSun;">日</span> 11:41, Eli Qiao wrote:</div>
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I think there were some discussion already , check <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/support-private-registry">
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<div class="yiv4843844425MsoNormal">On 2016<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family:SimSun;">年</span>04<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family:SimSun;">月</span>19<span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-family:SimSun;">日</span> 10:57,
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<div class="yiv4843844425MsoNormal">We export the docker images as tar files, and put the tar files into a dir in the image when we build the image. And we add scripts to load the tar files in cloud-init, so that we don't need to download the docker images.</div>
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