<html><body><p>Run both Chronos and Marathon on Mesos <br>and Run Chronos on top of Marathon seems two different cases.<br><br><br>I think if #1 <font color="#1F497D" face="Calibri">Add Chronos to the mesos bay</font> , #2 is possible to archive that. Only if we find frameworks(heat templates) not able to handle that, we could use option #1.<br>But still flexible is better, I think.<br><br><br>Thanks <br><br>Best Wishes,<br>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>Kai Qiang Wu (Î⿪ǿ Kennan£©<br>IBM China System and Technology Lab, Beijing<br><br>E-mail: wkqwu@cn.ibm.com<br>Tel: 86-10-82451647<br>Address: Building 28(Ring Building), ZhongGuanCun Software Park, <br> No.8 Dong Bei Wang West Road, Haidian District Beijing P.R.China 100193<br>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>Follow your heart. You are miracle! <br><br><img width="16" height="16" src="cid:1__=8FBBF500DF95161B8f9e8a93df938690918c8FB@" border="0" alt="Inactive hide details for Guz Egor ---12/04/2016 04:36:05 am---+1 for "#1: Mesos and Marathon". Most deployments that I am awar"><font color="#424282">Guz Egor ---12/04/2016 04:36:05 am---+1 for "#1: Mesos and Marathon". Most deployments that I am aware of has this setup. Also we can pro</font><br><br><font size="2" color="#5F5F5F">From: </font><font size="2">Guz Egor <guz_egor@yahoo.com></font><br><font size="2" color="#5F5F5F">To: </font><font size="2">"OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" <openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org></font><br><font size="2" color="#5F5F5F">Date: </font><font size="2">12/04/2016 04:36 am</font><br><font size="2" color="#5F5F5F">Subject: </font><font size="2">Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum] Enhance Mesos bay to a DCOS bay</font><br><hr width="100%" size="2" align="left" noshade style="color:#8091A5; "><br><br><br><font face="Helvetica">+1 for "#1: Mesos and Marathon". Most deployments that I am aware of has this setup. Also we can provide several line instructions how to run Chronos on top of Marathon.</font><br><br><font face="Helvetica">honestly I don't see how #2 will work, because Marathon installation is different from Aurora installation. </font><br><br><font face="Helvetica">--- </font><br><font face="Helvetica">Egor</font><br><br><hr width="100%" size="2" align="left" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460392269145_124250"><b><font face="Arial">From:</font></b><font face="Arial"> Kai Qiang Wu <wkqwu@cn.ibm.com></font><b><font face="Arial"><br>To:</font></b><font face="Arial"> OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) <openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org> </font><b><font face="Arial"><br>Sent:</font></b><font face="Arial"> Sunday, April 10, 2016 6:59 PM</font><b><font face="Arial"><br>Subject:</font></b><font face="Arial"> Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum] Enhance Mesos bay to a DCOS bay</font><br><br><font size="4" face="Helvetica">#2 seems more flexible, and if it be proved it can "make the </font><b><font size="4" face="Helvetica">SAME</font></b><font size="4" face="Helvetica"> mesos bay applied with mutilple frameworks." It would be great. Which means, one mesos bay should support multiple frameworks.<br><br><br><br><br>Thanks<br><br><br>Best Wishes,<br>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>Kai Qiang Wu (Î⿪ǿ Kennan£©<br>IBM China System and Technology Lab, Beijing<br><br>E-mail: wkqwu@cn.ibm.com<br>Tel: 86-10-82451647<br>Address: Building 28(Ring Building), ZhongGuanCun Software Park, <br>No.8 Dong Bei Wang West Road, Haidian District Beijing P.R.China 100193<br>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>Follow your heart. You are miracle! <br><br></font><font size="4" color="#424282" face="Helvetica">Hongbin Lu ---11/04/2016 12:06:07 am---My preference is #1, but I don¡¯t feel strong to exclude #2. I would agree to go with #2 for now and</font><br><font color="#5F5F5F" face="Helvetica"><br>From: </font><font face="Helvetica">Hongbin Lu <hongbin.lu@huawei.com></font><font color="#5F5F5F" face="Helvetica"><br>To: </font><font face="Helvetica">"OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" <openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org></font><font color="#5F5F5F" face="Helvetica"><br>Date: </font><font face="Helvetica">11/04/2016 12:06 am</font><font color="#5F5F5F" face="Helvetica"><br>Subject: </font><font face="Helvetica">Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum] Enhance Mesos bay to a DCOS bay</font><br><hr width="100%" size="2" align="left" noshade><font size="4" face="Helvetica"><br><br></font><font size="4" color="#1F497D" face="Calibri"><br>My preference is #1, but I don¡¯t feel strong to exclude #2. I would agree to go with #2 for now and switch back to #1 if there is a demand from users. For Ton¡¯s suggestion to push Marathon into the introduced configuration hook, I think it is a good idea.</font><font size="4" face="Helvetica"><br></font><font size="4" color="#1F497D" face="Calibri"><br>Best regards,<br>Hongbin</font><font size="4" face="Helvetica"><br></font><b><font size="4" face="Tahoma"><br>From:</font></b><font size="4" face="Tahoma"> Ton Ngo [</font><a href="mailto:ton@us.ibm.com" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF" face="Tahoma">mailto:ton@us.ibm.com</font></u></a><font size="4" face="Tahoma">] </font><b><font size="4" face="Tahoma"><br>Sent:</font></b><font size="4" face="Tahoma"> April-10-16 11:24 AM</font><b><font size="4" face="Tahoma"><br>To:</font></b><font size="4" face="Tahoma"> OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)</font><b><font size="4" face="Tahoma"><br>Subject:</font></b><font size="4" face="Tahoma"> Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum] Enhance Mesos bay to a DCOS bay</font><br><font size="5" face="Times New Roman">I would agree that #2 is the most flexible option, providing a well defined path for additional frameworks such as Kubernetes and Swarm. <br>I would suggest that the current Marathon framework be refactored to use this new hook, to serve as an example and to be the supported<br>framework in Magnum. This will also be useful to users who want other frameworks but not Marathon.<br>Ton,<br></font><font size="4" face="Helvetica"><br></font><font size="5" color="#424282" face="Times New Roman">Adrian Otto ---04/08/2016 08:49:52 PM---On Apr 8, 2016, at 3:15 PM, Hongbin Lu <hongbin.lu@huawei.com<</font><a href="mailto:hongbin.lu@huawei.com" target="_blank"><u><font size="5" color="#0000FF" face="Times New Roman">mailto:hongbin.lu@huawei.com</font></u></a><font size="5" color="#424282" face="Times New Roman">>> wrote:</font><font size="4" color="#5F5F5F" face="Times New Roman"><br><br>From: </font><font size="4" face="Times New Roman">Adrian Otto <</font><a href="mailto:adrian.otto@rackspace.com" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF" face="Times New Roman">adrian.otto@rackspace.com</font></u></a><font size="4" face="Times New Roman">></font><font size="4" color="#5F5F5F" face="Times New Roman"><br>To: </font><font size="4" face="Times New Roman">"OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" <</font><a href="mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF" face="Times New Roman">openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org</font></u></a><font size="4" face="Times New Roman">></font><font size="4" color="#5F5F5F" face="Times New Roman"><br>Date: </font><font size="4" face="Times New Roman">04/08/2016 08:49 PM</font><font size="4" color="#5F5F5F" face="Times New Roman"><br>Subject: </font><font size="4" face="Times New Roman">Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum] Enhance Mesos bay to a DCOS bay</font><br><hr width="100%" size="2" align="left" noshade><font size="5" face="Times New Roman"><br></font><br><font size="6" face="Times New Roman">On Apr 8, 2016, at 3:15 PM, Hongbin Lu <</font><a href="mailto:hongbin.lu@huawei.com" target="_blank"><u><font size="6" color="#0000FF" face="Times New Roman">hongbin.lu@huawei.com</font></u></a><font size="6" face="Times New Roman">> wrote:</font><font size="5" color="#1F497D" face="Calibri"><br><br>Hi team,<br>I would like to give an update for this thread. In the last team, we discussed several options to introduce Chronos to our mesos bay:</font><br><font size="5" color="#1F497D" face="Calibri">1.</font><font color="#1F497D" face="Times New Roman"> </font><font size="5" color="#1F497D" face="Calibri">Add Chronos to the mesos bay. With this option, the mesos bay will have two mesos frameworks by default (Marathon and Chronos).<br>2.</font><font color="#1F497D" face="Times New Roman"> </font><font size="5" color="#1F497D" face="Calibri">Add a configuration hook for users to configure additional mesos frameworks, such as Chronos. With this option, Magnum team doesn¡¯t need to maintain extra framework configuration. However, users need to do it themselves.</font><font size="6" face="Times New Roman"><br>This is my preference.<br><br>Adrian</font><br><font size="5" color="#1F497D" face="Calibri">3.</font><font color="#1F497D" face="Times New Roman"> </font><font size="5" color="#1F497D" face="Calibri">Create a dedicated bay type for Chronos. With this option, we separate Marathon and Chronos into two different bay types. As a result, each bay type becomes easier to maintain, but those two mesos framework cannot share resources (a key feature of mesos is to have different frameworks running on the same cluster to increase resource utilization).Which option you prefer? Or you have other suggestions? Advices are welcome.<br><br>Best regards,<br>Hongbin</font><b><font size="5" face="Tahoma"><br><br>From:</font></b><font size="5" face="Tahoma"> Guz Egor [</font><a href="mailto:guz_egor@yahoo.com" target="_blank"><u><font size="5" color="#0000FF" face="Tahoma">mailto:guz_egor@yahoo.com</font></u></a><font size="5" face="Tahoma">] </font><b><font size="5" face="Tahoma"><br>Sent:</font></b><font size="5" face="Tahoma"> March-28-16 12:19 AM</font><b><font size="5" face="Tahoma"><br>To:</font></b><font size="5" face="Tahoma"> OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)</font><b><font size="5" face="Tahoma"><br>Subject:</font></b><font size="5" face="Tahoma"> Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum] Enhance Mesos bay to a DCOS bay</font><font size="5" face="Times New Roman"><br><br>Jay,<br><br>just keep in mind that Chronos can be run by Marathon. <br><br>--- <br>Egor</font><div align="center"><hr width="100%" size="2" align="center"></div><b><font size="5" face="Arial">From:</font></b><font size="5" face="Arial"> Jay Lau <</font><a href="mailto:jay.lau.513@gmail.com" target="_blank"><u><font size="5" color="#800080" face="Arial">jay.lau.513@gmail.com</font></u></a><font size="5" face="Arial">></font><b><font size="5" face="Arial"><br>To:</font></b><font size="5" face="Arial"> OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) <</font><a href="mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org" target="_blank"><u><font size="5" color="#800080" face="Arial">openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org</font></u></a><font size="5" face="Arial">> </font><b><font size="5" face="Arial"><br>Sent:</font></b><font size="5" face="Arial"> Friday, March 25, 2016 7:01 PM</font><b><font size="5" face="Arial"><br>Subject:</font></b><font size="5" face="Arial"> Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum] Enhance Mesos bay to a DCOS bay</font><font size="6" face="Times New Roman"><br><br>Yes, that's exactly what I want to do, adding dcos cli and also add Chronos to Mesos Bay to make it can handle both long running services and batch jobs.<br><br>Thanks,<br><br>On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 5:25 PM, Michal Rostecki <</font><a href="mailto:michal.rostecki@gmail.com" target="_blank"><u><font size="6" color="#800080" face="Times New Roman">michal.rostecki@gmail.com</font></u></a><font size="6" face="Times New Roman">> wrote:<br><br>On 03/25/2016 07:57 AM, Jay Lau wrote:<br><br>Hi Magnum,<br><br>The current mesos bay only include mesos and marathon, it is better to<br>enhance the mesos bay have more components and finally enhance it to a<br>DCOS which focus on container service based on mesos.<br><br>For more detail, please refer to</font><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF" face="Helvetica"><br></font></u><a href="https://docs.mesosphere.com/getting-started/installing/installing-enterprise-edition/" target="_blank"><u><font size="6" color="#800080" face="Times New Roman">https://docs.mesosphere.com/getting-started/installing/installing-enterprise-edition/</font></u></a><font size="6" face="Times New Roman"><br><br>The mesosphere now has a template on AWS which can help customer deploy<br>a DCOS on AWS, it would be great if Magnum can also support it based on<br>OpenStack.<br><br>I filed a bp here</font><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF" face="Helvetica"><br></font></u><a href="https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/mesos-dcos" target="_blank"><u><font size="6" color="#800080" face="Times New Roman">https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/mesos-dcos</font></u></a><font size="6" face="Times New Roman"> , please show<br>your comments if any.<br><br>--<br>Thanks,<br><br>Jay Lau (Guangya Liu)<br><br>Sorry if I'm missing something, but isn't DCOS a closed source software?<br><br>However, the "DCOS cli"[1] seems to be working perfectly with Marathon and Mesos installed by any way if you configure it well. I think that the thing which can be done in Magnum is to make the experience with "DOCS" tools as easy as possible by using open source components from Mesosphere.<br><br>Cheers,<br>Michal<br><br>[1] </font><a href="https://github.com/mesosphere/dcos-cli" target="_blank"><u><font size="6" color="#800080" face="Times New Roman">https://github.com/mesosphere/dcos-cli</font></u></a><font size="6" face="Times New Roman"><br><br>__________________________________________________________________________<br>OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)<br>Unsubscribe: </font><a href="http://OpenStack-dev-request@lists.openstack.org/?subject:unsubscribe" target="_blank"><u><font size="6" color="#800080" face="Times New Roman">OpenStack-dev-request@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe</font></u></a><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF" face="Helvetica"><br></font></u><a href="http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev" target="_blank"><u><font size="6" 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