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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Hi all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">We discussed this in our last team meeting, and we were in disagreement. Some of us preferred option #1, others preferred option #2. I would suggest to leave
this topic to the design summit so that our team members would have more times to research each option. If we are in disagreement again, I will let the core team to vote (hopefully we will have all the core team in the design summit).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Hongbin<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">+1 for "#1: Mesos and Marathon". Most deployments that I am aware of has this setup. Also we can provide several line instructions
how to run Chronos on top of Marathon.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">honestly I don't see how #2 will work, because Marathon installation is different from Aurora installation. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">#2 seems more flexible, and if it be proved it can "make the
<b>SAME</b> mesos bay applied with mutilple frameworks." It would be great. Which means, one mesos bay should support multiple frameworks.<br>
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</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#424282">Hongbin Lu ---11/04/2016 12:06:07 am---My preference is #1, but I don’t feel strong to exclude #2. I would agree to go with #2 for now and</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum] Enhance Mesos bay to a DCOS bay</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">My preference is #1, but I don’t feel strong to exclude #2. I would agree to go with #2 for now and switch back to #1 if there is a demand from users. For Ton’s suggestion to push Marathon
into the introduced configuration hook, I think it is a good idea.</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><br>
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</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Best regards,</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><br>
</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Hongbin</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><br>
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</span><b><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black"> Ton Ngo [<a href="mailto:ton@us.ibm.com" target="_blank">mailto:ton@us.ibm.com</a>]
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Sent:</b> April-10-16 11:24 AM<b><br>
To:</b> OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)<b><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;color:black">I would agree that #2 is the most flexible option, providing a well defined path for additional frameworks such as Kubernetes and Swarm.
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I would suggest that the current Marathon framework be refactored to use this new hook, to serve as an example and to be the supported<br>
framework in Magnum. This will also be useful to users who want other frameworks but not Marathon.<br>
Ton,<br>
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</span><span style="font-size:13.5pt;color:#424282">Adrian Otto ---04/08/2016 08:49:52 PM---On Apr 8, 2016, at 3:15 PM, Hongbin Lu <hongbin.lu@huawei.com<</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><a href="mailto:hongbin.lu@huawei.com" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">mailto:hongbin.lu@huawei.com</span></a></span><span style="font-size:13.5pt;color:#424282">>>
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From: </span><span style="color:black">Adrian Otto <</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><a href="mailto:adrian.otto@rackspace.com" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">adrian.otto@rackspace.com</span></a></span><span style="color:black">></span><span style="color:#5F5F5F"><br>
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Date: </span><span style="color:black">04/08/2016 08:49 PM</span><span style="color:#5F5F5F"><br>
Subject: </span><span style="color:black">Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum] Enhance Mesos bay to a DCOS bay</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;color:black">On Apr 8, 2016, at 3:15 PM, Hongbin Lu <</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><a href="mailto:hongbin.lu@huawei.com" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">hongbin.lu@huawei.com</span></a></span><span style="font-size:18.0pt;color:black">>
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Hi team,<br>
I would like to give an update for this thread. In the last team, we discussed several options to introduce Chronos to our mesos bay:</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">1.</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D">
</span><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Add Chronos to the mesos bay. With this option, the mesos bay will have two mesos frameworks by default (Marathon and Chronos).<br>
2.</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D"> </span><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Add a configuration hook for users to configure additional mesos frameworks, such as Chronos. With this option, Magnum
team doesn’t need to maintain extra framework configuration. However, users need to do it themselves.</span><span style="font-size:18.0pt;color:black"><br>
This is my preference.</span><span style="font-size:13.5pt;color:black"><br>
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Adrian</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Create a dedicated bay type for Chronos. With this option, we separate Marathon and Chronos into two different bay types. As a result, each bay type becomes easier to maintain,
but those two mesos framework cannot share resources (a key feature of mesos is to have different frameworks running on the same cluster to increase resource utilization).Which option you prefer? Or you have other suggestions? Advices are welcome.</span><span style="font-size:13.5pt;color:black"><br>
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Best regards,<br>
Hongbin</span><span style="font-size:13.5pt;color:black"><br>
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From:</span></b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black"> Guz Egor [</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><a href="mailto:guz_egor@yahoo.com" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">mailto:guz_egor@yahoo.com</span></a></span><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">]
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Sent:</b> March-28-16 12:19 AM<b><br>
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Jay,<br>
<br>
just keep in mind that Chronos can be run by Marathon. <br>
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Egor</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Sent:</b> Friday, March 25, 2016 7:01 PM<b><br>
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Yes, that's exactly what I want to do, adding dcos cli and also add Chronos to Mesos Bay to make it can handle both long running services and batch jobs.</span><span style="font-size:13.5pt;color:black"><br>
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Thanks,</span><span style="font-size:13.5pt;color:black"><br>
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On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 5:25 PM, Michal Rostecki <</span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><a href="mailto:michal.rostecki@gmail.com" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:purple">michal.rostecki@gmail.com</span></a></span><span style="font-size:18.0pt;color:black">>
wrote:</span><span style="font-size:13.5pt;color:black"><br>
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On 03/25/2016 07:57 AM, Jay Lau wrote:</span><span style="font-size:13.5pt;color:black"><br>
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Hi Magnum,<br>
<br>
The current mesos bay only include mesos and marathon, it is better to<br>
enhance the mesos bay have more components and finally enhance it to a<br>
DCOS which focus on container service based on mesos.<br>
<br>
For more detail, please refer to</span><u><span style="font-size:13.5pt;color:blue"><br>
</span></u><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><a href="https://docs.mesosphere.com/getting-started/installing/installing-enterprise-edition/" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:purple">https://docs.mesosphere.com/getting-started/installing/installing-enterprise-edition/</span></a></span><span style="font-size:18.0pt;color:black"><br>
<br>
The mesosphere now has a template on AWS which can help customer deploy<br>
a DCOS on AWS, it would be great if Magnum can also support it based on<br>
OpenStack.<br>
<br>
I filed a bp here</span><u><span style="font-size:13.5pt;color:blue"><br>
</span></u><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><a href="https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/mesos-dcos" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:purple">https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/mesos-dcos</span></a></span><span style="font-size:18.0pt;color:black">
, please show<br>
your comments if any.<br>
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--<br>
Thanks,<br>
<br>
Jay Lau (Guangya Liu)</span><span style="font-size:13.5pt;color:black"><br>
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Sorry if I'm missing something, but isn't DCOS a closed source software?<br>
<br>
However, the "DCOS cli"[1] seems to be working perfectly with Marathon and Mesos installed by any way if you configure it well. I think that the thing which can be done in Magnum is to make the experience with "DOCS" tools as easy as possible by using open
source components from Mesosphere.<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
Michal<br>
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[1] </span><span style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><a href="https://github.com/mesosphere/dcos-cli" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:purple">https://github.com/mesosphere/dcos-cli</span></a></span><span style="font-size:18.0pt;color:black"><br>
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