<div dir="ltr">Hi Flavio! Thank you <span class="">for the clarification.<br><br></span><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote">I do realize that I missed both meetings and that logs from one of them are not<br>
complete. I apologize if I've misinterpreted the intentions here. I do think<br>
engaiging with DefCore as early in the process as possible is good but I'd also<br>
like to clarify the intentions here before this escalates (again) into more<br>
confusion about what Glance's future looks like.<br></blockquote><div><br><div class="" id="magicdomid512"><span class="">I want to tell you</span><span class=""> that t</span><span class="">he intention of the DefCore meeting was not to confuse more on the work, rather it was to get clarity on all the constraints that we are stuck with. Currently we intend to keep our focus on interoperability issues this cycle - API hardening being our first priority, along with early adoption from Murano and Community App Catalog.</span></div><div class="" id="magicdomid514"></div><div class="" id="magicdomid491"><br></div><div class="" id="magicdomid492"><span class="">And also I want to assure the community that Glare is being developed consistent with the API WG principles and in such a way that it could be included in DefCore at the appropriate time.</span></div><div class="" id="magicdomid493"><br></div><div class="" id="magicdomid494"><span class="">Best regards,</span></div><div class="" id="magicdomid495"><span class="">Mikhail Fedosin</span></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 6:02 PM, Flavio Percoco <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:flavio@redhat.com" target="_blank">flavio@redhat.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Greetings,<br>
<br>
I missed yday's Glance meeting but I went ahead and read the logs. While I was<br>
at it, I read a sentence from Erno (under the Glare updates topic) that caught<br>
my eye:<br>
<br>
14:06:27 <jokke_> About that. I got couple of pings last night asking wtf is<br>
going on. Could we please stop selling Glare as replacement for Glance at<br>
least until we have a) stable API and b) some level of track record/testing<br>
that it actually is successfully working<br>
<br>
I went ahead and looked for the defcore meeting logs[0] (btw, seems like the bot<br>
died during the meeting) to get a better understanding of what Erno meant (I<br>
assumed the pings he mentioned came from the meeting and then confirmed it).<br>
<br>
>From the small piece of conversation I could read, and based on the current<br>
status of development, priorities and support, I noticed a few "issues" that I<br>
believe are worth raising:<br>
<br>
1. Glare's API is under discussion and it's a complementary service for Glance.<br>
[1] 2. Glare should not be a required API for every cloud, whereas Glance is and<br>
it should be kept that way for now. 3. Glare is not a drop-in replacement for<br>
Glance and it'll need way more discussions before that can happen.<br>
<br>
I do realize that I missed both meetings and that logs from one of them are not<br>
complete. I apologize if I've misinterpreted the intentions here. I do think<br>
engaiging with DefCore as early in the process as possible is good but I'd also<br>
like to clarify the intentions here before this escalates (again) into more<br>
confusion about what Glance's future looks like.<br>
<br>
So, to summarize, I don't think Glare should be added in DefCore in the near<br>
future. The Glance team should focus on fixing the current interoperability<br>
issues before we'll be able to actually try to build on top of the current API.<br>
<br>
Hope the above makes sense,<br>
Flavio<br>
<br>
[0] <a href="http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/defcore/2016/defcore.2016-03-30-16.00.log.txt" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/defcore/2016/defcore.2016-03-30-16.00.log.txt</a><br>
[1] <a href="https://review.openstack.org/#/c/283136" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://review.openstack.org/#/c/283136</a><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
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@flaper87<br>
Flavio Percoco<br>
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