<div dir="ltr"><div>Hi,</div><div><br></div>+1, it's very hard to use current representation of logs for debugging, everybody goes to the node and tries to find required logs, instead of reimplementing debugging friendly tool it would be better to get something ready to use on the master.<div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 12:05 PM, Simon Pasquier <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:spasquier@mirantis.com" target="_blank">spasquier@mirantis.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Hello Roman,<br><br></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><span class="">On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 9:57 AM, Roman Prykhodchenko <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:me@romcheg.me" target="_blank">me@romcheg.me</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Fuelers,<br>
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I remember we’ve discussing this topic in our couloirs before but I’d like to bring that discussion to a more official format.<br>
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Let me state a few reasons to do this:<br>
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- Log management code in Nailgun is overcomplicated<br>
- Working with logs on big scale deployments is barely possible given the current representation<br>
- Due to overcomplexity and ineffectiveness of the code we always get recurring bugs like [1]. That eats tons of time to resolve.<br>
- There are much better specialized tools, say Logstash [2], that can deal with logs much more effectively.<br>
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There may be more reasons bus I think even the already mentioned ones are enough to think about the following proposal:<br>
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- Remove Logs tab from Fuel Web UI<br>
- Remove logs support from Nailgun<br>
- Create mechanism that allows to configure different log management software, say Logstash, Loggly, etc </blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
- Choose a default software to install and provide a plugin for it from the box<br></blockquote></span><div><br><div>This is what the LMA/StackLight plugins [1][2] are meant for. No need to develop anything new.<br><br></div><div>And I'm +1 with the removal of log management from Fuel. As you said, it can't scale...<br></div><div><br>[1] <a href="http://fuel-plugin-lma-collector.readthedocs.org/en/latest/" target="_blank">http://fuel-plugin-lma-collector.readthedocs.org/en/latest/</a><br>[2] <a href="http://fuel-plugin-elasticsearch-kibana.readthedocs.org/en/latest/" target="_blank">http://fuel-plugin-elasticsearch-kibana.readthedocs.org/en/latest/</a><br></div><br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><span class="">
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References<br>
1.  <a href="https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1553170" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1553170</a><br>
2. <a href="https://www.elastic.co/products/logstash" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.elastic.co/products/logstash</a><br>
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- romcheg<br>
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