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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 02/20/2016 03:58 PM, Steven Dake
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      <div>Neutron, the largest project in OpenStack by active
        committers and reviewers as measured by the governance
        repository teamstats tool, has a limit of 2 core reviewers per
        company.  They do that for a reason.  I expect Kolla will grow
        over time (we are about 1/4 their size in terms of contributors
        and reviewers).  I believe other projects follow a similar
        pattern besides Neutron that already have good diversity (and
        intend to keep it in place).</div>
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      <div>Regards</div>
      <div>-steve</div>
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    Keystone has no official policy, just a firm awareness that things
    can get unbalanced.  Right now, Keystone is more IBM than any other
    single company, but there is sufficient representation from HP and
    Rackspace to balance it out.  Only on Red Hatter at the Moment, and
    one from CERN.<br>
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    I think balance is important, not just between companies, but
    between industries.  The RH-IBM-HP view is more enterprise focused,
    and Rackspace is more Public cloud focused.  This is the real aspect
    of balance that is essential to Keystone.<br>
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          <span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span>Gal Sagie <<a
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          <span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Saturday,
          February 20, 2016 at 10:38 AM<br>
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          <span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Re:
          [openstack-dev] [kolla] discussion about core reviewer
          limitations by company<br>
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              <div dir="ltr">I think setting these limits is wrong, some
                companies have more overall representation then others.
                <div>The core reviewer job should be on a personal basis
                  and not on a company basis, i think the PTL of each
                  project needs</div>
                <div>to make sure the diversity and the community voice
                  is heard in each project and the correct path is taken
                  even if</div>
                <div>many (or even if all) of the cores are from the
                  same company.</div>
                <div>If you really want to set limits then i would go
                  with something like 2 cores from the same company
                  cannot +2 the same patch, but </div>
                <div>again i am against such things personally..</div>
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                <div>Disclaimer: i am not personally involved in Kolla
                  or know how things are running there.</div>
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                <div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 7:09
                  PM, Steven Dake (stdake) <span dir="ltr">
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                      <div>Hey folks,</div>
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                      <div>Mirantis has been developing a big footprint
                        in the core review team, and Red Hat already has
                        a big footprint in the core review team.  These
                        are all good things, but I want to avoid in the
                        future a situation in which one company has a
                        majority of core reviewers.  Since core
                        reviewers set policy for the project, the
                        project could be harmed if one company has such
                        a majority.  This is one reason why project
                        diversity is so important and has its own
                        special snowflake tag in the governance
                        repository.</div>
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                      <div>I'd like your thoughts on how to best handle
                        this situation, before I trigger  a vote we can
                        all agree on.</div>
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                      <div>I was thinking of something simple like:</div>
                      <div>"1 company may not have more then 33% of core
                        reviewers.  At the conclusion of PTL elections,
                        the current cycle's 6 months of reviews
                        completed will be used as a metric to select the
                        core reviewers from that particular company if
                        the core review team has shrunk as a result of
                        removal of core reviewers during the cycle."</div>
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                      <div>Thoughts, comments, questions, concerns, etc?</div>
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                      <div>Regards,</div>
                      <div>-steve</div>
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