<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 20 February 2016 at 12:58, Steven Dake (stdake) <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:stdake@cisco.com" target="_blank">stdake@cisco.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div>Neutron, the largest project in OpenStack by active committers and reviewers as measured by the governance repository teamstats tool, has a limit of 2 core reviewers per company. They do that for a reason. I expect Kolla will grow over time (we are about
1/4 their size in terms of contributors and reviewers). I believe other projects follow a similar pattern besides Neutron that already have good diversity (and intend to keep it in place).</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Where did you find this information? I do not believe this is true. I agree wholeheartedly with Joshua: I personally value the judgement of the people I trust rather than looking at affiliation. </div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:14px;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
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<span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span>Gal Sagie <<a href="mailto:gal.sagie@gmail.com" target="_blank">gal.sagie@gmail.com</a>><br>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Saturday, February 20, 2016 at 10:38 AM<br>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla] discussion about core reviewer limitations by company<br>
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<div dir="ltr">I think setting these limits is wrong, some companies have more overall representation then others.
<div>The core reviewer job should be on a personal basis and not on a company basis, i think the PTL of each project needs</div>
<div>to make sure the diversity and the community voice is heard in each project and the correct path is taken even if</div>
<div>many (or even if all) of the cores are from the same company.</div>
<div>If you really want to set limits then i would go with something like 2 cores from the same company cannot +2 the same patch, but </div>
<div>again i am against such things personally..</div>
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<div>Disclaimer: i am not personally involved in Kolla or know how things are running there.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 7:09 PM, Steven Dake (stdake) <span dir="ltr">
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<div>Mirantis has been developing a big footprint in the core review team, and Red Hat already has a big footprint in the core review team. These are all good things, but I want to avoid in the future a situation in which one company has a majority of core
reviewers. Since core reviewers set policy for the project, the project could be harmed if one company has such a majority. This is one reason why project diversity is so important and has its own special snowflake tag in the governance repository.</div>
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<div>I'd like your thoughts on how to best handle this situation, before I trigger a vote we can all agree on.</div>
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<div>I was thinking of something simple like:</div>
<div>"1 company may not have more then 33% of core reviewers. At the conclusion of PTL elections, the current cycle's 6 months of reviews completed will be used as a metric to select the core reviewers from that particular company if the core review team has
shrunk as a result of removal of core reviewers during the cycle."</div>
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<div>Thoughts, comments, questions, concerns, etc?</div>
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<div>-steve</div>
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