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<div>I think that IBM has a very interesting policy in that two IBM cores should not approve a patch posted by one of their colleagues (that is what Chris RIP used to tell me). It would be nice if the community would follow this policy.</div>
<div>Thanks</div>
<div>Gary</div>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span>"Armando M." <<a href="mailto:armamig@gmail.com">armamig@gmail.com</a>><br>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Sunday, February 21, 2016 at 6:40 PM<br>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla] discussion about core reviewer limitations by company<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 20 February 2016 at 14:06, Kevin Benton <span dir="ltr">
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<p dir="ltr">I don't think neutron has a limit. There are 4 from redhat and 3 from hp and mirantis right now.
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<div>By the way, technically speaking some of those also only limit themselves the right to merge to their area of expertise.</div>
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<div>Neutron, the largest project in OpenStack by active committers and reviewers as measured by the governance repository teamstats tool, has a limit of 2 core reviewers per company. They do that for a reason. I expect Kolla will grow over time (we are about
1/4 their size in terms of contributors and reviewers). I believe other projects follow a similar pattern besides Neutron that already have good diversity (and intend to keep it in place).</div>
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<div>Regards</div>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span>Gal Sagie <<a href="mailto:gal.sagie@gmail.com" target="_blank">gal.sagie@gmail.com</a>><br>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Saturday, February 20, 2016 at 10:38 AM<br>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Re: [openstack-dev] [kolla] discussion about core reviewer limitations by company<br>
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<div dir="ltr">I think setting these limits is wrong, some companies have more overall representation then others.
<div>The core reviewer job should be on a personal basis and not on a company basis, i think the PTL of each project needs</div>
<div>to make sure the diversity and the community voice is heard in each project and the correct path is taken even if</div>
<div>many (or even if all) of the cores are from the same company.</div>
<div>If you really want to set limits then i would go with something like 2 cores from the same company cannot +2 the same patch, but </div>
<div>again i am against such things personally..</div>
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<div>Disclaimer: i am not personally involved in Kolla or know how things are running there.</div>
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<div>Mirantis has been developing a big footprint in the core review team, and Red Hat already has a big footprint in the core review team. These are all good things, but I want to avoid in the future a situation in which one company has a majority of core
reviewers. Since core reviewers set policy for the project, the project could be harmed if one company has such a majority. This is one reason why project diversity is so important and has its own special snowflake tag in the governance repository.</div>
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<div>I'd like your thoughts on how to best handle this situation, before I trigger a vote we can all agree on.</div>
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<div>I was thinking of something simple like:</div>
<div>"1 company may not have more then 33% of core reviewers. At the conclusion of PTL elections, the current cycle's 6 months of reviews completed will be used as a metric to select the core reviewers from that particular company if the core review team has
shrunk as a result of removal of core reviewers during the cycle."</div>
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<div>Thoughts, comments, questions, concerns, etc?</div>
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<div>Regards,</div>
<div>-steve</div>
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