<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Nov 11, 2015, at 3:54 AM, Andrey Kurilin <<a href="mailto:akurilin@mirantis.com" class="">akurilin@mirantis.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><div class="gmail_extra"><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 4:25 PM, Sean Dague<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:sean@dague.net" target="_blank" class="">sean@dague.net</a>></span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><span class="">On 11/10/2015 08:24 AM, Andrey Kurilin wrote:<br class="">>>It was also proposed to reuse openstackclient or the openstack SDK.<br class="">><br class="">> Openstack SDK was proposed a long time ago(it looks like it was several<br class="">> cycles ago) as "alternative" for cliutils and apiclient, but I don't<br class="">> know any client which use it yet. Maybe openstacksdk cores should try to<br class="">> port any client as an example of how their project should be used.<br class=""><br class=""></span>The SDK is targeted for end user applications, not service clients. I do<br class="">get there was lots of confusion over this, but SDK is not the answer<br class="">here for service clients.<br class=""></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Ok, thanks for explanation, but there is another question in my head: If openstacksdk is not for python-*clients, why apiclient(which is actually used by python-*clients) was marked as deprecated due to openstacksdk?<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><div>The Oslo team wanted to deprecate the API client code because it wasn’t being maintained. We thought at the time we did so that the SDK would replace the clients, but discussions since that time have changed direction.</div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><br class="">The service clients are *always* going to have to exist in some form.<br class="">Either as libraries that services produce, or by services deciding they<br class="">don't want to consume the libraries of other clients and just put a<br class="">targeted bit of rest code in their own tree to talk to other services.<br class=""><span class="im"><br class=""> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>-Sean<br class=""><br class="">--<br class="">Sean Dague<br class=""><a href="http://dague.net/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">http://dague.net</a><br class=""><br class=""></span><div class=""><div class="h5">__________________________________________________________________________<br class="">OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)<br class="">Unsubscribe:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://OpenStack-dev-request@lists.openstack.org/?subject:unsubscribe" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">OpenStack-dev-request@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe</a><br class=""><a href="http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev</a><br class=""></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""><br clear="all" class=""><br class="">--<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr" class="">Best regards,<br class="">Andrey Kurilin.<br class=""></div></div></div></div><span style="font-family: Helvetica; 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