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--></style></head><body lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#1f497d">This seems like a reasonable approach. As mentioned earlier in the thread, our current framework allows plugins to declare which components they could not work with, so we already have information about “incompatibility” for a number of plugins. The issue with this approach is that, as new plugins are added to an existing release, the previously published plugins cannot show that they are either (1) incompatible or (2) untested.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#1f497d">The proposed approach solves this problem. Adding compatibility gives more clarity to the users about known good combinations, and creating a gray area for untested component combinations helps expose areas where we haven’t done thorough testing and there may be issues, and users should proceed with guidance/support.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Vitaly Kramskikh [mailto:<a href="mailto:vkramskikh@mirantis.com">vkramskikh@mirantis.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 02, 2015 8:38 AM<br><b>To:</b> OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) <<a href="mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org">openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel][Plugins][UX] Component registry</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Hi,<br><br>I think having both compatibility and incompatibility lists is a good idea. I think we need just to show a warning if users pick options which are not in compatibility list and disable options which are in incompatibility list. We also need to be able to provide a message in case of incompatibility: the current implementation of the wizard supports custom messages in the wizard config and they are quite useful.</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div><p class="MsoNormal">2015-11-02 16:16 GMT+07:00 Evgeniy L <<a href="mailto:eli@mirantis.com" target="_blank">eli@mirantis.com</a>>:</p><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class="MsoNormal">Hi,</p><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">The main reason why I think we should get all of the three states is we</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">don't know exactly if those plugins (which developer didn't specify) are</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">compatible or not, so we should not make any assumptions and prevent</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">the user from enabling any plugins she/he wants. The best we can do here</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">is to provide all of the information plugin developer knows, directly to the user,</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">without us in the middle who make decisions based on incomplete data.</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">So lets ask plugin developer to specify a set of components which he tested</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">his plugin with. Plus a list of components which he tested with and he is sure</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">that those are not going to working together.</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">On UI we can show explicitly, that this combination is tested and approved to</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">be working, another combination is not working for sure (plugin developers tested</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">it and explicitly specified), and there will be a lot of combination which are going</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">to work together without problems, but we should say the user, that the developer</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">didn't test it and he should test and use it carefully.</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Thanks,</p></div></div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 11:22 AM, Andriy Popovych <<a href="mailto:apopovych@mirantis.com" target="_blank">apopovych@mirantis.com</a>> wrote:</p><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">Hi fuelers,<br><br>Currently we are working on feature component registry [1] which should<br>help us to prevent not logical compositions of different components in<br>wizard tab during cluster(environment) creation. Now we have a mechanizm<br>of 'restrictions' which is not flexible for components provided by<br>plugins. In our current approach we have two states for components -<br>compatible/incompatible which are described in compatibility matrix<br>based on OpenStack components (For example: cinder-vmware storage only<br>compatible with vCetner hypervisor and should work when only KVM uses).<br>In this case we allow user to choose only that components we defently<br>know works well with each other. Another approach tell us to have 3<br>states: compatible/incompatible/ and all other components about<br>compatibility with others we know nothing. In that case we should show<br>on wizard which components compatible, which not, and others which user<br>can enable on his own risk. So I need your opinions: should we allow for<br>user choose only that coponents which are tested and defently works or<br>prevent her/him from choosing which are defently not works and means<br>potentional risk of failing deployment when component about we know<br>nothing isn't work together.<br><br><br><br>[1] <a href="https://blueprints.launchpad.net/fuel/+spec/component-registry" target="_blank">https://blueprints.launchpad.net/fuel/+spec/component-registry</a><br><br>__________________________________________________________________________<br>OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)<br>Unsubscribe: <a href="http://OpenStack-dev-request@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe" target="_blank">OpenStack-dev-request@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe</a><br><a href="http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev" target="_blank">http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev</a></p></blockquote></div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>__________________________________________________________________________<br>OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)<br>Unsubscribe: <a href="http://OpenStack-dev-request@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe" target="_blank">OpenStack-dev-request@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe</a><br><a href="http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev" target="_blank">http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev</a></p></blockquote></div><p class="MsoNormal"><br><br clear="all"><br>-- </p><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Vitaly Kramskikh,<br>Fuel UI Tech Lead,<br>Mirantis, Inc.</p></div></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>