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As an alternative, to be considered to cleaned up, note that
octavia, also a neutron stadium project, puts its specs in its own
repo, runs its own doc jobs, etc. Pros and cons, but just pointing
out that its out there.</blockquote>
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Same for networking-bgpvpn: while the base discussion on the API
introduced by this project initially happened in neutron-specs [1],
we now host it in our repo [2] (doc dir, doc jobs and new specs to
be reviewed will be in this repo as well). <br>
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This is works for us today.<br>
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-Thomas<br>
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[1] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://review.openstack.org/#/c/177740/">https://review.openstack.org/#/c/177740/</a><br>
[2] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://docs.openstack.org/developer/networking-bgpvpn/">http://docs.openstack.org/developer/networking-bgpvpn/</a><br>
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why would we?</div>
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<div class="">The
reason to
consider it is
because Kuryr
is a
sub-project of
Neutron, and
they are doing
their spec
submissions
following the
Neutron
guidelines.
Adding the
kuryr-core
gerrit group
to be on part
with the *aas
repos makes
sense here. If
other
sub-projects
(like L2FW,
SFC, etc.)
start doing
spec reviews
in the
neutron-specs
repository,
then adding
them makes
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<div class="">I
don't believe this
is the road we set
ourselves on when
we started the
decomp/stadium. We
wanted a clear
separation of
concerns and I
don't see how
going down this
path is going to
help us achieve
that.</div>
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<div class="">I
don't see the
grounds to have
such an abrupt
change in
direction right
now, especially
for the level of
work that that
would imply and
the pressure that
would put on the
drivers team.
Anyone is free to
review and
contribute where
it matters for
them, and location
should not prevent
them from doing
so.</div>
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<div class="">I was merely
implying that since these
projects are part of
neutron, and they have
specs, keeping them in one
place makes sense. And by
doing that, we'd need to
give them +2 powers for
their core reviewers. But,
I'm fine with leaving things
the way they are and having
them put their specs in
their devref. But we should
update the devref in Neutron
to reflect this, e.g. that
we don't expect specs in
neutron-specs for things
outside [neutron,
neutron-fwaas,
neutron-lbaas,
neutron-vpnaas].<br class="">
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<div class="">IMO, it's pretty clear
from here [1], which I revised in the
context of [2]. Not sure if there's
anything else that's left to
misunderstanding.</div>
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<div class="">I think this [1] helps to make it
100% clearer, at least to me.<br class="">
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already
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sending Kuryr
spec to the
Neutron
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<div class="">No,
unless what
you are asking
are changes to
the core. Do
you have a
reference for
me to look at?</div>
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<div class="">See
above, perhaps
I answered
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<div class="">Any
opinions on
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2015 at 11:10
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<div class="">During
revision of
the Neutron
teams [1], we
made clear
that the
neutron-specs
repo is to be
targeted by
specs for all
the Neutron
projects (core
+ *-aas).</div>
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<div class="">For
this reason I
made sure that
the
neutron-specs-core
team +2 right
was extended
to all the
core teams.</div>
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<div class="">Be
mindful, use
your +2 rights
with care: if
you are core
on a *-aas
project, you
should
exercise that
vote only for
specs that
pertain the
project you're
core of.</div>
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<div class="">If
I could use
this email as
a reminder
also of the
core hierarchy
and lieutenant
system we
switched to in
Liberty ([3]):
if you have
been made core
by a
lieutenant of
a sub-system,
please use
your +2/+A
only within
your area of
comfort and
reach out for
help if in
doubt. </div>
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<div class="">Reviews
are always
welcome
though!</div>
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<div class="">Cheers,</div>
<div class="">Armando</div>
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