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    +1, we can add more detail explanation information of --memory in
    magnum CLI instead of quick start.<br>
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    Eli.<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2015年10月09日 07:45, Vikas Choudhary
      wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">In my opinion, there should be a more detailed
        document explaining importance of commands and options. 
        <div>Though --memory is an important attribute, but since
          objective of quickstart is to get user a minimum working
          system within minimum time, it seems better to skip this
          option in quickstart.</div>
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        <div>-Vikas</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 1:47 AM, Egor
          Guz <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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          wrote:<br>
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            .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Adrian,<br>
            <br>
            I agree with Steve, otherwise it’s hard to find balance what
            should go to quick start guide (e.g. many operators worry
            about cpu or I/O instead of memory).<br>
            Also I belve auto-scalling deserve it’s own detail document.<br>
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            —<br>
            Egor<br>
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            Date: Thursday, October 8, 2015 at 13:04<br>
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            Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum] Document adding
            --memory option to create containers<br>
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              Steve,<br>
              <br>
              I agree with the concept of a simple quickstart doc, but
              there also needs to be a comprehensive user guide, which
              does not yet exist. In the absence of the user guide, the
              quick start is the void where this stuff is starting to
              land. We simply need to put together a magnum reference
              document, and start moving content into that.<br>
              <br>
              Adrian<br>
              <br>
            </span><span class="">On Oct 8, 2015, at 12:54 PM, Steven
              Dake (stdake) <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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              wrote:<br>
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              Quickstart guide should be dead dead dead dead simple. 
              The goal of the quickstart guide isn’t to tach people best
              practices around Magnum.  It is to get a developer
              operational to give them that sense of feeling that Magnum
              can be worked on.  The goal of any quickstart guide should
              be to encourage the thinking that a person involving
              themselves with the project the quickstart guide
              represents is a good use of the person’s limited time on
              the planet.<br>
              <br>
              Regards<br>
              -steve<br>
              <br>
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            <span class="">Date: Thursday, October 8, 2015 at 9:00 AM<br>
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            <span class="">Subject: [openstack-dev] [magnum] Document
              adding --memory option to create containers<br>
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              Hi team,<br>
              <br>
              I want to move the discussion in the review below to here,
              so that we can get more feedback<br>
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                href="https://review.openstack.org/#/c/232175/"
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              In summary, magnum currently added support for specifying
              the memory size of containers. The specification of the
              memory size is optional, and the COE won’t reserve any
              memory to the containers with unspecified memory size. The
              debate is whether we should document this optional
              parameter in the quickstart guide. Below is the positions
              of both sides:<br>
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              Pros:<br>
              ·         It is a good practice to always specifying the
              memory size, because containers with unspecified memory
              size won’t have QoS guarantee.<br>
              ·         The in-development autoscaling feature [1] will
              query the memory size of each container to estimate the
              residual capacity and triggers scaling accordingly.
              Containers with unspecified memory size will be treated as
              taking 0 memory, which negatively affects the scaling
              decision.<br>
              Cons:<br>
              ·         The quickstart guide should be kept as simple as
              possible, so it is not a good idea to have the optional
              parameter in the guide.<br>
              <br>
              Thoughts?<br>
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              [1] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnum/+spec/autoscale-bay</a><br>
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