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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Thanks Alex, Zhou,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I get errors from congress when I do a re-join. These errors seem to due to the order in which the services are coming up. Hence I still depend on running stack.sh
after the VM is up and running. Please try out the new VM – also advise if you need to add any of your use cases. Also re-join starts “screen” – do we expect the end user to know how to use “screen”.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I do understand that running “stack.sh” takes time to run – but it does not do things that appear to be any kind of magic which we want to avoid in order to get
the user excited.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I have uploaded a new version of the VM please experiment with this and let me know:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><a href="http://paloaltan.net/Congress/Congress_Usecases_SEPT_25_2015.ova">http://paloaltan.net/Congress/Congress_Usecases_SEPT_25_2015.ova</a></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">(root: vagrant password: vagrant)<span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">-Shiv<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Alex Yip [mailto:ayip@vmware.com]
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 24, 2015 5:09 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [openstack-dev] [Congress] Congress Usecases VM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">I was able to make devstack run without a network connection by disabling tempest. So, I think it uses the loopback IP address, and that does not change, so rejoin-stack.sh works without a network
at all.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">- Alex<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> Zhou, Zhenzan <<a href="mailto:zhenzan.zhou@intel.com">zhenzan.zhou@intel.com</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 24, 2015 4:56 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [openstack-dev] [Congress] Congress Usecases VM</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#212121">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Rejoin-stack.sh works only if its IP was not changed. So using NAT network and fixed ip inside the VM can help.</span><span style="color:#212121"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">BR</span><span style="color:#212121"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Zhou Zhenzan</span><span style="color:#212121"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#212121">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#212121"> Alex Yip [<a href="mailto:ayip@vmware.com">mailto:ayip@vmware.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 25, 2015 01:37<br>
<b>To:</b> OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [openstack-dev] [Congress] Congress Usecases VM</span><span style="color:#212121"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">I have been using images, rather than snapshots.</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#212121"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> </span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#212121"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">It doesn't take that long to start up. First, I boot the VM which takes a minute or so. Then I run rejoin-stack.sh which takes just another minute or so. It's really not that bad, and rejoin-stack.sh
restores vms and openstack state that was running before.</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#212121"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> </span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#212121"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">- Alex</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#212121"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> Shiv Haris <<a href="mailto:sharis@Brocade.com">sharis@Brocade.com</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 24, 2015 10:29 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [openstack-dev] [Congress] Congress Usecases VM</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#212121">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Hi Congress folks,</span><span style="color:#212121"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I am looking for ideas. We want the Openstack to be running when the user instantiates the Usecase-VM. However creating a OVA file is possible only when the VM
is halted which means Openstack is not running and the user will have to run devstack again (which is time consuming) when the VM is restarted.</span><span style="color:#212121"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">The option is to take a snapshot. It appears that taking a snapshot of the VM and using it in another setup is not very straight forward. It involves modifying
the .vbox file and seems that it is prone to user errors. I am leaning towards halting the machine and generating an OVA file.</span><span style="color:#212121"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I am looking for suggestions ….</span><span style="color:#212121"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Thanks,</span><span style="color:#212121"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">-Shiv</span><span style="color:#212121"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#212121">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#212121"> Shiv Haris [<a href="mailto:sharis@Brocade.com">mailto:sharis@Brocade.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 24, 2015 9:53 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [openstack-dev] [Congress] Congress Usecases VM</span><span style="color:#212121"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">First of all I apologize for not making it at the meeting yesterday, could not cut short another overlapping meeting.</span><span style="color:#212121"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Also, Tim thanks for the feedback. I have addressed some of the issues you posed however I am still working on some of the subtle issues raised. Once I have addressed
all I will post another VM by end of the week.</span><span style="color:#212121"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">-Shiv</span><span style="color:#212121"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#212121">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#212121"> Tim Hinrichs [<a href="mailto:tim@styra.com">mailto:tim@styra.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 18, 2015 5:14 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [openstack-dev] [Congress] Congress Usecases VM</span><span style="color:#212121"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#212121">It's great to have this available! I think it'll help people understand what's going on MUCH more quickly.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#212121">Some thoughts.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#212121">- The image is 3GB, which took me 30 minutes to download. Are all VMs this big? I think we should finish this as a VM but then look into doing it with containers to make it EVEN easier for people to get started.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">[shivharis] Yes, unfortunately that is the case. The disk size I set is 20GB – but the OVA compress the image and disk to 3 GB. I will looking at other options.</span><span style="color:#212121"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#212121">- It gave me an error about a missing shared directory when I started up.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">[shivharis] will fix this</span><span style="color:#212121"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#212121">- I expected devstack to be running when I launched the VM. devstack startup time is substantial, and if there's a problem, it's good to assume the user won't know how to fix it. Is it possible to have devstack
up and running when we start the VM? That said, it started up fine for me.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">[shivharis] OVA files can be created only when the VM is halted, so devstack will be down when you bring up the VM. I agree a snapshot will be a better choice.</span><span style="color:#212121"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#212121">- It'd be good to have a README to explain how to use the use-case structure. It wasn't obvious to me.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">[shivharis] added.</span><span style="color:#212121"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#212121">- The top-level dir of the Congress_Usecases folder has a Congress_Usecases folder within it. I assume the inner one shouldn't be there?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">[shivharis] my automation issues, fixed.</span><span style="color:#212121"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#212121">- When I ran the 10_install_policy.sh, it gave me a bunch of authorization problems.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">[shivharis] fixed</span><span style="color:#212121"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#212121">But otherwise I think the setup looks reasonable. Will there be an undo script so that we can run the use cases one after another without worrying about interactions?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">[shivharis] tricky, will find some way out.</span><span style="color:#212121"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">[shivharis] Thanks</span><span style="color:#212121"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#212121">On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 11:03 AM Shiv Haris <<a href="mailto:sharis@brocade.com" target="_blank">sharis@brocade.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Hi Congress folks,</span><span style="color:#212121"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><span style="color:#212121"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">BTW the login/password for the VM is vagrant/vagrant</span><span style="color:#212121"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">-Shiv</span><span style="color:#212121"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:#212121">From:</span></b><span style="color:#212121"> Shiv Haris [mailto:<a href="mailto:sharis@Brocade.com" target="_blank">sharis@Brocade.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 17, 2015 5:03 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org" target="_blank">openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [openstack-dev] [Congress] Congress Usecases VM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Hi All,</span><span style="color:#212121"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><span style="color:#212121"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I have put my VM (virtualbox) at:</span><span style="color:#212121"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><span style="color:#212121"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__paloaltan.net_Congress_Congress-5FUsecases-5FSEPT-5F17-5F2015.ova&d=BQMGaQ&c=Sqcl0Ez6M0X8aeM67LKIiDJAXVeAw-YihVMNtXt-uEs&r=djA1lFdIf0--GIJ_8gr44Q&m=3IP4igrLri-BaK8VbjbEq2l_AGknCI7-t3UbP5VwlU8&s=wVyys8I915mHTzrOp8f0KLqProw6ygNfaMSP0T-yqCg&e=" target="_blank">http://paloaltan.net/Congress/Congress_Usecases_SEPT_17_2015.ova</a></span><span style="color:#212121"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I usually run this on a macbook air – but it should work on other platfroms as well. I chose virtualbox since it is free.</span><span style="color:#212121"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Please send me your usecases – I can incorporate in the VM and send you an updated image. Please take a look at the structure I have in place for the first usecase; would prefer it be the same for other usecases.
(However I am still open to suggestions for changes)</span><span style="color:#212121"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Thanks,</span><span style="color:#212121"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">-Shiv</span><span style="color:#212121"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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