<html><body><p><font size="4">>> I'd like to apply some common sense here and if this many candidates on both sides of the globe got confused, we can still take that into consideration when taking next steps. </font><br><br>++ to this, it was clearly a slip up from some folk. let's use our human judgement and common sense here :)<br><br>Thanks,<br><br>Steve Martinelli<br>OpenStack Keystone Core<br><br><img width="16" height="16" src="cid:1__=8FBBF450DFCB4C2E8f9e8a93df938690918c8FB@" border="0" alt="Inactive hide details for Anne Gentle ---2015/09/17 11:56:53 AM---On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 10:26 AM, Monty Taylor <mordred@inaug"><font color="#424282">Anne Gentle ---2015/09/17 11:56:53 AM---On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 10:26 AM, Monty Taylor <mordred@inaugust.com> wrote: > On 09/17/2015 04:50 P</font><br><br><font size="2" color="#5F5F5F">From: </font><font size="2">Anne Gentle <annegentle@justwriteclick.com></font><br><font size="2" color="#5F5F5F">To: </font><font size="2">"OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" <openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org></font><br><font size="2" color="#5F5F5F">Date: </font><font size="2">2015/09/17 11:56 AM</font><br><font size="2" color="#5F5F5F">Subject: </font><font size="2">Re: [openstack-dev] [all][elections] PTL nomination period is now over</font><br><hr width="100%" size="2" align="left" noshade style="color:#8091A5; "><br><br><br><br><br><font size="4">On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 10:26 AM, Monty Taylor <</font><a href="mailto:mordred@inaugust.com" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF">mordred@inaugust.com</font></u></a><font size="4">> wrote:</font><ul><font size="4">On 09/17/2015 04:50 PM, Anita Kuno wrote:</font><br><font size="4">On 09/17/2015 08:22 AM, Matt Riedemann wrote:</font><ul><font size="4"><br><br>On 9/17/2015 8:25 AM, Tristan Cacqueray wrote:</font><br><font size="4">PTL Nomination is now over. The official candidate list is available on<br>the wiki[0].<br><br>There are 5 projects without candidates, so according to this<br>resolution[1], the TC we'll have to appoint a new PTL for Barbican,<br>MagnetoDB, Magnum, Murano and Security</font><br><font size="4"><br>This is devil's advocate, but why does a project technically need a PTL?<br> Just so that there can be a contact point for cross-project things,<br>i.e. a lightning rod? There are projects that do a lot of group<br>leadership/delegation/etc, so it doesn't seem that a PTL is technically<br>required in all cases.</font></ul><font size="4"><br>I think that is a great question for the TC to consider when they<br>evaluate options for action with these projects.<br><br>The election officials are fulfilling their obligation according to the<br>resolution:</font><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF"><br></font></u><a href="http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/governance/tree/resolutions/20141128-elections-process-for-leaderless-programs.rst" target="_blank"><u><font size="4" color="#0000FF">http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/governance/tree/resolutions/20141128-elections-process-for-leaderless-programs.rst</font></u></a><font size="4"><br><br>If you read the verb there the verb is "can" not "must", I choose the<br>verb "can" on purpose for the resolution when I wrote it. The TC has the<br>option to select an appointee. The TC can do other things as well,<br>should the TC choose.</font><br><font size="4"><br>I agree- and this is a great example of places where human judgement is better than rules.<br><br>For instance - one of the projects had a nominee but it missed the deadline, so that's probably an easy on.</font></ul><br><font size="4">Honestly I did the "Thursday" alignment math in my head and thought of it in my non-futuristic timezone. Plus I have a Thursday release mentality thanks to Theirry's years of excellent release management. :)</font><br><br><font size="4">Plus, I further confused a couple of candidates when encouraging candidacy posts, so I apologize for that! I am trying to get ahead of what we'll have to do on the TC anyway.</font><br><br><font size="4">I'd like to apply some common sense here and if this many candidates on both sides of the globe got confused, we can still take that into consideration when taking next steps. </font><br><font size="4"> </font><ul><font size="4"><br>For one of the projects it had been looking dead for a while, so this is the final nail in the coffin from my POV</font></ul><br><font size="4">I'm not sure we've defined a coffin really, more of an attic/shelving system. :)</font><br><br><font size="4">I'll definitely take some time to follow up with individuals in this deadline confusion system when we take next steps on the TC. </font><br><br><font size="4">Anne</font><br><font size="4"> </font><ul><font size="4"><br>For the other three - I know they're still active projects with people interested in them, so sorting them out will be fun!</font><br><font size="4"><br></font><br>
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