<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 15 September 2015 at 14:04, Mike Spreitzer <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mspreitz@us.ibm.com" target="_blank">mspreitz@us.ibm.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class=""><tt><font size="2">"Armando M." <<a href="mailto:armamig@gmail.com" target="_blank">armamig@gmail.com</a>> wrote
on 09/15/2015 03:50:24 PM:<br><br>> On 15 September 2015 at 10:02, Doug Hellmann <<a href="mailto:doug@doughellmann.com" target="_blank">doug@doughellmann.com</a>>
wrote:</font></tt><br><tt><font size="2">> Excerpts from Armando M.'s message of 2015-09-15
09:30:35 -0700:</font></tt><br></span><tt><font size="2">...</font></tt><span class=""><br><tt><font size="2">> As with the Glance image upload API discussion,
this is an example<br>> of an extremely common use case that is either complex for the end<br>> user or for which they have to know something about the deployment<br>> in order to do it at all. The usability of an OpenStack cloud running<br>> neutron would be enhanced greatly if there was a simple, clear, way<br>> for the user to get a new VM with a public IP on any cloud without<br>> multiple steps on their part. </font></tt><br><br></span><tt><font size="2"><<<<<<end of excerpt from Armando>>>>>></font></tt><br><tt><font size="2"><br>...</font></tt><span class=""><br><tt><font size="2">> <br>> So this boils down to: in light of the possible ways of providing
VM<br>> connectivity, how can we make a choice on the user's behalf? Can we
<br>> assume that he/she always want a publicly facing VM connected to <br>> Internet? The answer is 'no'.</font></tt><br><br></span><tt><font size="2">While it may be true that in some deployments there
is no good way for the code to choose, I think that is not the end of the
story here. The motivation to do this is that in *some* deployments
there *is* a good way for the code to figure out what to do.</font></tt></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Agreed, I wasn't dismissing this entirely. I was simply saying that if we don't put constraints in place it's difficult to come up with a good 'default' answer.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br><br><tt><font size="2">Regards,</font></tt><br><tt><font size="2">Mike</font></tt><br><br>__________________________________________________________________________<br>
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