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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/10/15 3:11 PM, Ken Thomas wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CAKZHay78MttJf7pi_Rby3foO8kbPyMSySyJO00CUjS1rJ+nmzw@mail.gmail.com"
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            id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18382">Hi all,</span></div>
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    Hey Ken! (we miss you at our IRC meetings :) )
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cite="mid:CAKZHay78MttJf7pi_Rby3foO8kbPyMSySyJO00CUjS1rJ+nmzw@mail.gmail.com"
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          id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18380" dir="ltr"
          style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light,'Helvetica
          Neue Light','Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,'Lucida
          Grande',sans-serif;font-size:16px"><span class="yiv2728937560"
            id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18715">(I've
            been away for a couple of weeks and I tried to send this
            before I left. I didn't see it come through so m</span>y
          apologies if this is the second time you've seen this.)</div>
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    Nope, this is the first time I've seen this, the [chef] tag isn't
    used much so it's nice to see traffic.
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cite="mid:CAKZHay78MttJf7pi_Rby3foO8kbPyMSySyJO00CUjS1rJ+nmzw@mail.gmail.com"
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          id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18380" dir="ltr"
          style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light,'Helvetica
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        <div class="yiv2728937560"
          id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18390"
          style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light,'Helvetica
          Neue Light','Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,'Lucida
          Grande',sans-serif;font-size:16px"><span class="yiv2728937560"
            id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18392">I recall
            markvan mentioning a while ago that there was a need for </span>services
          to restart when the underlying package changed but the config <span
            class="yiv2728937560"
            id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18400">file
            didn't.  We've got something in place and working that does </span>exactly
          that. I'd like to get y'all's opinion if it's an ugly kludge
          or something useful that we might want to refine and
          contribute back.</div>
        <div class="yiv2728937560"
          id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18410"
          style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light,'Helvetica
          Neue Light','Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,'Lucida
          Grande',sans-serif;font-size:16px"><span class="yiv2728937560"
            id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18412"></span><br
            id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18414"
            class="yiv2728937560">
        </div>
        <div class="yiv2728937560"
          id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18416"
          style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light,'Helvetica
          Neue Light','Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,'Lucida
          Grande',sans-serif;font-size:16px"><span class="yiv2728937560"
            id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18418">The basic
            approach is to look up a given package's version at recipe </span>compile
          time, and then again at runtime.  If the two values are
          different, then we notify the service to stop. We rely on the
          main recipe to make sure that the service is started. This
          avoids multiple restarts if both the package and the config
          change.</div>
        <div class="yiv2728937560"
          id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18436"
          style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light,'Helvetica
          Neue Light','Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,'Lucida
          Grande',sans-serif;font-size:16px"><span class="yiv2728937560"
            id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18438"></span><br
            id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18440"
            class="yiv2728937560">
        </div>
        <div class="yiv2728937560"
          id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18442"
          style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light,'Helvetica
          Neue Light','Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,'Lucida
          Grande',sans-serif;font-size:16px"><span class="yiv2728937560"
            id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18444">For
            example, we have a library module that contains a routine
            that </span>does the equivalent of 'rpm -q a <name>'. 
          If the package isn't installed yet, then the library routine
          will just return an empty string and that'll be different from
          the post install version.</div>
        <div class="yiv2728937560"
          id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18458"
          style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light,'Helvetica
          Neue Light','Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,'Lucida
          Grande',sans-serif;font-size:16px"><span class="yiv2728937560"
            id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18460"></span><br
            id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18462"
            class="yiv2728937560">
        </div>
        <div class="yiv2728937560"
          id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18464"
          style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light,'Helvetica
          Neue Light','Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,'Lucida
          Grande',sans-serif;font-size:16px"><span class="yiv2728937560"
            id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18466">In the
            recipe itself, we then have the following: (This is from
            our </span>glance recipe.)</div>
        <div class="yiv2728937560"
          id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18472"
          style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light,'Helvetica
          Neue Light','Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,'Lucida
          Grande',sans-serif;font-size:16px"><span class="yiv2728937560"
            id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18474"></span><br
            id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18476"
            class="yiv2728937560">
        </div>
        <div class="yiv2728937560"
          id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18478"
          style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light,'Helvetica
          Neue Light','Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,'Lucida
          Grande',sans-serif;font-size:16px"><span class="yiv2728937560"
            id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18480"># Get
            access to the library routine that can look up package</span></div>
        <div class="yiv2728937560"
          id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18482"
          style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light,'Helvetica
          Neue Light','Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,'Lucida
          Grande',sans-serif;font-size:16px"><span class="yiv2728937560"
            id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18484">#
            versions. Note that we're including it twice. The first time
            is</span></div>
        <div class="yiv2728937560"
          id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18486"
          style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light,'Helvetica
          Neue Light','Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,'Lucida
          Grande',sans-serif;font-size:16px"><span class="yiv2728937560"
            id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18488"># so that
            we can get the preinstall version during the compile phase.</span></div>
        <div class="yiv2728937560"
          id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18490"
          style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light,'Helvetica
          Neue Light','Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,'Lucida
          Grande',sans-serif;font-size:16px"><span class="yiv2728937560"
            id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18492"># The
            second include is so that we can check the package version</span></div>
        <div class="yiv2728937560"
          id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18494"
          style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light,'Helvetica
          Neue Light','Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,'Lucida
          Grande',sans-serif;font-size:16px"><span class="yiv2728937560"
            id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18496"># during
            the run-time phase. Yes, we could have done the preinstall
            check</span></div>
        <div class="yiv2728937560"
          id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18498"
          style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light,'Helvetica
          Neue Light','Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,'Lucida
          Grande',sans-serif;font-size:16px"><span class="yiv2728937560"
            id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18500"># at run
            time and just had one include, but that rubyblock of code is</span></div>
        <div class="yiv2728937560"
          id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18502"
          style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light,'Helvetica
          Neue Light','Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,'Lucida
          Grande',sans-serif;font-size:16px"><span class="yiv2728937560"
            id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18504"># more
            complicated than doing the include.</span></div>
        <div class="yiv2728937560"
          id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18506"
          style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light,'Helvetica
          Neue Light','Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,'Lucida
          Grande',sans-serif;font-size:16px"><span class="yiv2728937560"
            id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18508">class
            ::Chef::Recipe # rubocop:disable
            Documentation,ClassAndModuleChildren</span></div>
        <div class="yiv2728937560"
          id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18510"
          style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light,'Helvetica
          Neue Light','Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,'Lucida
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            id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18512">  include
            <our special module></span></div>
        <div class="yiv2728937560"
          id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18514"
          style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light,'Helvetica
          Neue Light','Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,'Lucida
          Grande',sans-serif;font-size:16px"><span class="yiv2728937560"
            id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18516">end</span></div>
        <div class="yiv2728937560"
          id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18518"
          style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light,'Helvetica
          Neue Light','Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,'Lucida
          Grande',sans-serif;font-size:16px"><span class="yiv2728937560"
            id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18520"></span><br
            id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18522"
            class="yiv2728937560">
        </div>
        <div class="yiv2728937560"
          id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18524"
          style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light,'Helvetica
          Neue Light','Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,'Lucida
          Grande',sans-serif;font-size:16px"><span class="yiv2728937560"
            id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18526">class
            ::Chef # rubocop:disable ClassAndModuleChildren</span></div>
        <div class="yiv2728937560"
          id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18528"
          style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light,'Helvetica
          Neue Light','Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,'Lucida
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            id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18530">  class
            Resource</span></div>
        <div class="yiv2728937560"
          id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18532"
          style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light,'Helvetica
          Neue Light','Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,'Lucida
          Grande',sans-serif;font-size:16px"><span class="yiv2728937560"
            id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18534">    class
            RubyBlock # rubocop:disable Documentation</span></div>
        <div class="yiv2728937560"
          id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18536"
          style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light,'Helvetica
          Neue Light','Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,'Lucida
          Grande',sans-serif;font-size:16px"><span class="yiv2728937560"
            id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18538">     
            include <our special module></span></div>
        <div class="yiv2728937560"
          id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18540"
          style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light,'Helvetica
          Neue Light','Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,'Lucida
          Grande',sans-serif;font-size:16px"><span class="yiv2728937560"
            id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18542">    end</span></div>
        <div class="yiv2728937560"
          id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18544"
          style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light,'Helvetica
          Neue Light','Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,'Lucida
          Grande',sans-serif;font-size:16px"><span class="yiv2728937560"
            id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18546">  end</span></div>
        <div class="yiv2728937560"
          id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18548"
          style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light,'Helvetica
          Neue Light','Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,'Lucida
          Grande',sans-serif;font-size:16px"><span class="yiv2728937560"
            id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18550">end</span></div>
        <div class="yiv2728937560"
          id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18552"
          style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light,'Helvetica
          Neue Light','Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,'Lucida
          Grande',sans-serif;font-size:16px"><span class="yiv2728937560"
            id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18554">...</span></div>
        <div class="yiv2728937560"
          id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18556"
          style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light,'Helvetica
          Neue Light','Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,'Lucida
          Grande',sans-serif;font-size:16px"><span class="yiv2728937560"
            id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18558"><package
            install commands></span></div>
        <div class="yiv2728937560"
          id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18560"
          style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light,'Helvetica
          Neue Light','Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,'Lucida
          Grande',sans-serif;font-size:16px"><span class="yiv2728937560"
            id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18562">...</span></div>
        <div class="yiv2728937560"
          id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18564"
          style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light,'Helvetica
          Neue Light','Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,'Lucida
          Grande',sans-serif;font-size:16px"><span class="yiv2728937560"
            id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18566">#
            trigger_pkg is the package that we want to check and was
            picked it up</span></div>
        <div class="yiv2728937560"
          id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18568"
          style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light,'Helvetica
          Neue Light','Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,'Lucida
          Grande',sans-serif;font-size:16px"><span class="yiv2728937560"
            id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18570"># from an
            attribute. We'll call our library routine (this is at
            compile</span></div>
        <div class="yiv2728937560"
          id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18572"
          style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light,'Helvetica
          Neue Light','Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,'Lucida
          Grande',sans-serif;font-size:16px"><span class="yiv2728937560"
            id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18574"># time)
            and stash the preinstall version.</span></div>
        <div class="yiv2728937560"
          id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18576"
          style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light,'Helvetica
          Neue Light','Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,'Lucida
          Grande',sans-serif;font-size:16px"><span class="yiv2728937560"
            id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18578">node.default['openstack']['image']['preinstall']
            =</span></div>
        <div class="yiv2728937560"
          id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18580"
          style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light,'Helvetica
          Neue Light','Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,'Lucida
          Grande',sans-serif;font-size:16px"><span class="yiv2728937560"
            id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18582"> 
            pkg_version(trigger_pkg)</span></div>
        <div class="yiv2728937560"
          id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18584"
          style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light,'Helvetica
          Neue Light','Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,'Lucida
          Grande',sans-serif;font-size:16px"><span class="yiv2728937560"
            id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18586"></span><br
            id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18588"
            class="yiv2728937560">
        </div>
        <div class="yiv2728937560"
          id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18590"
          style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light,'Helvetica
          Neue Light','Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,'Lucida
          Grande',sans-serif;font-size:16px"><span class="yiv2728937560"
            id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18592"># Check
            the installed version at runtime, after the pkg commands</span></div>
        <div class="yiv2728937560"
          id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18594"
          style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light,'Helvetica
          Neue Light','Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,'Lucida
          Grande',sans-serif;font-size:16px"><span class="yiv2728937560"
            id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18596"># have
            actually run.  If there's a change in the version, then tell</span></div>
        <div class="yiv2728937560"
          id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18598"
          style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light,'Helvetica
          Neue Light','Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,'Lucida
          Grande',sans-serif;font-size:16px"><span class="yiv2728937560"
            id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18600"># glance
            to shutdown. It'll get restarted later on and pick up the</span></div>
        <div class="yiv2728937560"
          id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18602"
          style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light,'Helvetica
          Neue Light','Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,'Lucida
          Grande',sans-serif;font-size:16px"><span class="yiv2728937560"
            id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18604"># new
            binaries.</span></div>
        <div class="yiv2728937560"
          id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18606"
          style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light,'Helvetica
          Neue Light','Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,'Lucida
          Grande',sans-serif;font-size:16px"><span class="yiv2728937560"
            id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18608">ruby_block
            'glance postinstall' do</span></div>
        <div class="yiv2728937560"
          id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18610"
          style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light,'Helvetica
          Neue Light','Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,'Lucida
          Grande',sans-serif;font-size:16px"><span class="yiv2728937560"
            id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18612">  block
            do</span></div>
        <div class="yiv2728937560"
          id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18614"
          style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light,'Helvetica
          Neue Light','Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,'Lucida
          Grande',sans-serif;font-size:16px"><span class="yiv2728937560"
            id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18616">   
            postinstall_version = pkg_version(trigger_pkg)</span></div>
        <div class="yiv2728937560"
          id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18618"
          style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light,'Helvetica
          Neue Light','Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,'Lucida
          Grande',sans-serif;font-size:16px"><span class="yiv2728937560"
            id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18620">   
            preinstall_version =
            node['openstack']['image']['preinstall']</span></div>
        <div class="yiv2728937560"
          id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18622"
          style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light,'Helvetica
          Neue Light','Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,'Lucida
          Grande',sans-serif;font-size:16px"><span class="yiv2728937560"
            id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18624">   
            Chef::Log.info "preinstall version: #{preinstall_version}"</span></div>
        <div class="yiv2728937560"
          id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18626"
          style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light,'Helvetica
          Neue Light','Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,'Lucida
          Grande',sans-serif;font-size:16px"><span class="yiv2728937560"
            id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18628">   
            Chef::Log.info "postinstall version:#{postinstall_version}"</span></div>
        <div class="yiv2728937560"
          id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18630"
          style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light,'Helvetica
          Neue Light','Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,'Lucida
          Grande',sans-serif;font-size:16px"><span class="yiv2728937560"
            id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18632">    if
            preinstall_version != postinstall_version</span></div>
        <div class="yiv2728937560"
          id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18634"
          style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light,'Helvetica
          Neue Light','Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,'Lucida
          Grande',sans-serif;font-size:16px"><span class="yiv2728937560"
            id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18636">     
            Chef::Log.info 'Stopping glance services'</span></div>
        <div class="yiv2728937560"
          id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18638"
          style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light,'Helvetica
          Neue Light','Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,'Lucida
          Grande',sans-serif;font-size:16px"><span class="yiv2728937560"
            id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18640">     
            resources(service: 'glance-api').run_action(:stop)</span></div>
        <div class="yiv2728937560"
          id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18642"
          style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light,'Helvetica
          Neue Light','Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,'Lucida
          Grande',sans-serif;font-size:16px"><span class="yiv2728937560"
            id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18644">     
            resources(service: 'glance-registry').run_action(:stop)</span></div>
        <div class="yiv2728937560"
          id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18646"
          style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light,'Helvetica
          Neue Light','Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,'Lucida
          Grande',sans-serif;font-size:16px"><span class="yiv2728937560"
            id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18648">    else</span></div>
        <div class="yiv2728937560"
          id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18650"
          style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light,'Helvetica
          Neue Light','Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,'Lucida
          Grande',sans-serif;font-size:16px"><span class="yiv2728937560"
            id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18652">     
            Chef::Log.info 'No need to stop glance services'</span></div>
        <div class="yiv2728937560"
          id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18654"
          style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light,'Helvetica
          Neue Light','Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,'Lucida
          Grande',sans-serif;font-size:16px"><span class="yiv2728937560"
            id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18656">    end</span></div>
        <div class="yiv2728937560"
          id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18658"
          style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light,'Helvetica
          Neue Light','Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,'Lucida
          Grande',sans-serif;font-size:16px"><span class="yiv2728937560"
            id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18660">  end</span></div>
        <div class="yiv2728937560"
          id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18662"
          style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light,'Helvetica
          Neue Light','Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,'Lucida
          Grande',sans-serif;font-size:16px"><span class="yiv2728937560"
            id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18664">end</span></div>
        <div class="yiv2728937560"
          id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18666"
          style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light,'Helvetica
          Neue Light','Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,'Lucida
          Grande',sans-serif;font-size:16px"><span class="yiv2728937560"
            id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18668"></span><br
            id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18670"
            class="yiv2728937560">
        </div>
        <div class="yiv2728937560"
          id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18672"
          style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light,'Helvetica
          Neue Light','Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,'Lucida
          Grande',sans-serif;font-size:16px"><span class="yiv2728937560"
            id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18674"></span><br
            id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18676"
            class="yiv2728937560">
        </div>
        <div class="yiv2728937560"
          id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18678"
          style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light,'Helvetica
          Neue Light','Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,'Lucida
          Grande',sans-serif;font-size:16px"><span class="yiv2728937560"
            id="yiv2728937560yui_3_16_0_1_1439221941996_18680">That's
            the basics. Is this worth pursuing? If it seems reasonable
            then </span>I'll be happy to write up a spec, including any
          suggestions y'all may have. I.e. there may be some really
          braindead stuff in there just from my ignorance and flailing
          around just to make it work. I'm definitely open to
          suggestions.</div>
      </div>
    </blockquote>
    It's an interesting use case, that's for sure. I think a spec around
    this, and have a chance for us to talk it out would probably be
    advantageous to say the least. I see the advantage of this I really
    do, but we've been taking on IRC and it seems that we're gonna try
    to simplify our cookbooks for this next cycle, our cookbooks have
    just become so complex that we're worried we're scaring people off.<br>
    <br>
    Anyway, lets start with a spec and move from there. Thanks!<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Best Regards, 
JJ Asghar 
c: 512.619.0722 t: @jjasghar irc: j^2 
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