<html><body><p>I let the creators of the project speak for themselves but here is my take on project Kuryr.<br><br>The goal is not to containerize Neutron or other OpenStack services. The main objective is to use Neutron as a networking backend option for Docker. The original proposal was to do so in the context of using containers (for different Neutron backends or vif types). While the main objective is fundamental to the project, the latter (use of containers in this particular way) seems to be a tactical choice we need to make. I see several different options available to achieve the same goal in this regard.<br><br>Now, there is another aspect of using containers in the context of this project that is more interesting at least to me (and I do not know if others share this view or not) and that is the use of containers for providing network services that are not available through libnetwork as of now or in near future or ever. From the talks I have had with libnetwork developers the plan is to stay with the basic networking infrastructure and leave additional features to be developed by the community and to do so possibly by using what else, containers.<br><br>So take the current features available in libnetwork. You mainly get support for connectivity/isolation for multiple networks across multiple hosts. Now if you want to route between these networks, you have to devise a solution yourself. One possible solution would be having a router service in a container that gets connected to say two Docker networks. Whether the router service is implemented with the use of the current Neutron router services or by some other solutions is something to look into and discuss but this is a direction where I think Kuryr (did I spell it right? ;)) can and should contribute to.<br><br>Just my 2 cents on this topic.<br><br>Best,<br><br>Mohammad<br><br><br><img width="16" height="16" src="cid:1__=8FBBF418DFCDD61C8f9e8a93df938690918c8FB@" border="0" alt="Inactive hide details for "Steven Dake (stdake)" ---07/23/2015 11:34:09 AM---Gal, I’m not clear exactly what you plan to do wi"><font color="#424282">"Steven Dake (stdake)" ---07/23/2015 11:34:09 AM---Gal, I’m not clear exactly what you plan to do with regards to building docker containers for Neutro</font><br><br><font size="2" color="#5F5F5F">From: </font><font size="2">"Steven Dake (stdake)" <stdake@cisco.com></font><br><font size="2" color="#5F5F5F">To: </font><font size="2">"OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" <openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org>, Eran Gampel <Eran.Gampel@toganetworks.com>, Antoni Segura Puimedon <toni@midokura.com>, Irena Berezovsky <irena@midokura.com>, "gal.sagie@gmail.com" <gal.sagie@gmail.com></font><br><font size="2" color="#5F5F5F">Date: </font><font size="2">07/23/2015 11:34 AM</font><br><font size="2" color="#5F5F5F">Subject: </font><font size="2">Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][Kuryr][kolla] - Bringing Dockers networking to Neutron</font><br><hr width="100%" size="2" align="left" noshade style="color:#8091A5; "><br><br><br><font face="Calibri">Gal,</font><br><br><font face="Calibri">I’m not clear exactly what you plan to do with regards to building docker containers for Neutron, but the Kolla project has developed both linuxbridge and ovs agents as well as a complete running Neutron system inside container technology. We can launch it AIO with docker-compose, or alternatively it can be launched AIO or multinode with Ansible. Note we have a complete OpenStack implementation, not just Neutron.</font><br><br><font face="Calibri">We would welcome additional driver support using the standard OpenStack gerrit workflow.</font><br><br><a href="https://github.com/stackforge/kolla/tree/master/docker/centos/binary/neutron"><u><font color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">https://github.com/stackforge/kolla/tree/master/docker/centos/binary/neutron</font></u></a><br><br><font face="Calibri">Note we are also in the process of adding build from source to our tree here:</font><br><br><a href="https://github.com/stackforge/kolla/tree/master/docker/centos/source/neutron"><u><font color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">https://github.com/stackforge/kolla/tree/master/docker/centos/source/neutron</font></u></a><br><br><font face="Calibri">For further background on Kolla, check out our wiki page:</font><br><br><a href="https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Kolla"><u><font color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Kolla</font></u></a><br><br><font face="Calibri">Best wishes,</font><br><font face="Calibri">-steve</font><br><br><b><font face="Calibri">From: </font></b><font face="Calibri">Gal Sagie <</font><a href="mailto:gal.sagie@gmail.com"><u><font color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">gal.sagie@gmail.com</font></u></a><font face="Calibri">></font><b><font face="Calibri"><br>Reply-To: </font></b><font face="Calibri">"OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" <</font><a href="mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org"><u><font color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org</font></u></a><font face="Calibri">></font><b><font face="Calibri"><br>Date: </font></b><font face="Calibri">Wednesday, July 22, 2015 at 9:28 AM</font><b><font face="Calibri"><br>To: </font></b><font face="Calibri">"OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" <</font><a href="mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org"><u><font color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org</font></u></a><font face="Calibri">>, Eran Gampel <</font><a href="mailto:Eran.Gampel@toganetworks.com"><u><font color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">Eran.Gampel@toganetworks.com</font></u></a><font face="Calibri">>, Antoni Segura Puimedon <</font><a href="mailto:toni@midokura.com"><u><font color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">toni@midokura.com</font></u></a><font face="Calibri">>, Irena Berezovsky <</font><a href="mailto:irena@midokura.com"><u><font color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">irena@midokura.com</font></u></a><font face="Calibri">></font><b><font face="Calibri"><br>Subject: </font></b><font face="Calibri">[openstack-dev] [Neutron][Kuryr] - Bringing Dockers networking to Neutron</font><br>
<ul><ul><br><font face="Calibri">Hello Everyone, </font><br><br><font face="Calibri">Project Kuryr is now officially part of Neutron's big tent.</font><br><font face="Calibri">Kuryr is aimed to be used as a generic docker remote driver that connects docker to Neutron API's</font><br><font face="Calibri">and provide containerised images for the common Neutron plugins.</font><br><font face="Calibri">We also plan on providing common additional networking services API's from other sub projects</font><br><font face="Calibri">in the Neutron big tent.</font><br><br><font face="Calibri">We hope to get everyone on board with this project and leverage this joint effort for the many different solutions out there (instead of everyone re-inventing the wheel for each different project).</font><br><br><font face="Calibri">We want to start doing a weekly IRC meeting to coordinate the different requierments and</font><br><font face="Calibri">tasks, so anyone that is interested to participate please share your time preference</font><br><font face="Calibri">and we will try to find the best time for the majority.</font><br><br><font face="Calibri">Remember we have people in Europe, Tokyo and US, so we won't be able to find time that fits</font><br><font face="Calibri">everyone.</font><br><br><font face="Calibri">The currently proposed time is </font><b><u><font face="Calibri">Wedensday at 16:00 UTC </font></u></b><br><br><font face="Calibri">Please reply with your suggested time/day,</font><br><font face="Calibri">Hope to see you all, we have an interesting and important project ahead of us</font><br><br><font face="Calibri">Thanks</font><br><font face="Calibri">Gal.</font><tt>__________________________________________________________________________<br>OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)<br>Unsubscribe: OpenStack-dev-request@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe<br></tt><tt><a href="http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev">http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev</a></tt><tt><br></tt><br></ul></ul><BR>
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