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<div class="">On Jul 15, 2015, at 1:39 PM, <a href="mailto:hongbin.lu@huawei.com" class="">
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Our initial resistance to using flavor is that you may want the same bay to have a combination of different flavors in it. I suppose this might still be possible by changing the flavor value in the bay, and then scaling it.</div>
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<span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Why we introduced the “platform” field to indicate “vm” or “baremetel” is that magnum need to map a bay to a Heat template (which will be used to provision the
bay). Currently, Magnum has three layers of mapping:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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vm or baremetal<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">I think we could just replace “platform” with “flavor”, if we can populate a list of flovars for VM and another list of flavors for baremetal (We may need an
additional list of flavors for container in the future for the nested container use case). Then, the new three layers would be:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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baremetal, m1.small, m1.medium, …</span></div>
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Well, this would need to be a valid flavor name in nova for it to work. You might have several flavors that are all actually “baremetal”, so it would be up to the cloud operator to map all the flavors to the correct instance types. Perhaps it’s possible to
determine which nova dirt driver would be used for each of the flavors, and look that up automatically in order to eliminate thinned for maintaining a mapping.</div>
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<span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Symbol; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><span class="">・<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" class=""> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">coe:
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It would also give us the ability to pass in a flavor id as a parameter to our heat templates to allow them to be more easily used with different flavor sizes. IT could send the value from the bay model initially, or from the bay once it exists. It would also
be possible to implement a ‘scale bay’ operation that would also take this as a parameter so you could accomplish the equivalent of “add an 8GB node to this bay”, or "add a giant baremetal node to this bay”.</div>
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<span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class="">Maybe somehow I missed the point, but why not just use raw Nova flavors? They already abstract away irconic vs kvm vs hyperv/etc.<br class="">
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<span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Courier;" class="">IMO virt_type does not properly describe bare metal deployments. What about using the compute_driver parameter?</span><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<code style="font-family: SimSun;" class="">(StrOpt) Driver to use for controlling virtualization. Options include: libvirt.LibvirtDriver, xenapi.XenAPIDriver, fake.FakeDriver, baremetal.BareMetalDriver, vmwareapi.VMwareVCDriver, hyperv.HyperVDriver</code><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<b class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Adrian Otto <<a href="mailto:adrian.otto@rackspace.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">adrian.otto@rackspace.com</a>><br class="">
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<b class="">Date:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Tuesday, July 14, 2015 at 7:44 PM<br class="">
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<span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">One drawback to virt_type if not seen in the context of the acceptable values, is that it should be set to values like libvirt, xen, ironic, etc. That might actually be good. Instead
of using the values 'vm' or 'baremetal', we use the name of the nova virt driver, and interpret those to be vm or baremetal types. So if I set the value to 'xen', I know the nova instance type is a vm, and 'ironic' means a baremetal nova instance. <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">I have concerns about option 1 and 2, because “instance_type” and flavor was used interchangeably before [1]. If we use “instance_type” to indicate “vm” or “baremetal”,
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<b class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class="">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Kai Qiang Wu
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<b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>July-14-15 9:35 PM<br class="">
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<b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[openstack-dev] [magnum] Magnum template manage use platform VS others as a type?</span><span style="" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Hi Magnum Guys,</span><span style="" class=""><br class="">
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</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">I want to raise this question through ML.</span><span style="" class=""><br class="">
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</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">In this patch<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="" class=""><a href="https://review.openstack.org/#/c/200401/" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">https://review.openstack.org/#/c/200401/</span></a><br class="">
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</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">For some old history reason, we use<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">platform<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>to indicate 'vm' or 'baremetal'.</span><span style="" class=""><br class="">
</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">This seems not proper for that, @Adrian proposed nova_instance_type, and someone prefer other names, let me summarize as below:</span><span style="" class=""><br class="">
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</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">1. nova_instance_type 2 votes</span><span style="" class=""><br class="">
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</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">2. instance_type 2 votes</span><span style="" class=""><br class="">
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</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">3. others (1 vote, but not proposed any name)</span><span style="" class=""><br class="">
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</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Let's try to reach the agreement ASAP. I think count the final votes winner as the proper name is the best solution(considering community diversity).</span><span style="" class=""><br class="">
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</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">BTW, If you not proposed any better name, just vote to disagree all, I think that vote is not valid and not helpful to solve the issue.</span><span style="" class=""><br class="">
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</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Please help to vote for that name.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="" class=""><br class="">
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</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Thanks</span><span style="" class=""><br class="">
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</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Best Wishes,</span><span style="" class=""><br class="">
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</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Kai Qiang Wu (</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size: 10pt;" class="">吴开强</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span> Kennan</span><span lang="ZH-CN" style="font-size: 10pt;" class="">）</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><br class="">
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