<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 12:44 PM, Joshua Harlow <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:harlowja@outlook.com" target="_blank">harlowja@outlook.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">John Griffith wrote:<br>
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On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 12:25 PM, Joshua Harlow <<a href="mailto:harlowja@outlook.com" target="_blank">harlowja@outlook.com</a><br></span><div><div class="h5">
<mailto:<a href="mailto:harlowja@outlook.com" target="_blank">harlowja@outlook.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
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So I've been following the TC work on tags, and have been slightly<br>
confused by the whole work, so I am wondering if I can get a<br>
'explainlikeimfive' (borrowing from reddit terminology) edition of it.<br>
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I always thought tags were going to be something like:<br>
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<a href="http://i.imgur.com/rcAnMkX.png" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://i.imgur.com/rcAnMkX.png</a><br>
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(I'm not a graphic artist, obviously, haha); but the point there was<br>
that it would allow people to create tags, up or down vote them, and<br>
maybe even add comments and let the democratic process (the<br>
community) decide which tags are useful and which aren't (possibly<br>
prune tags that are garbage or are not useful).<br>
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Or something like:<br>
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<a href="http://i.imgur.com/gy1MGo6.png" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://i.imgur.com/gy1MGo6.png</a><br>
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That could perhaps use <a href="https://wordpress.org/plugins/fl3r-feelbox/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wordpress.org/plugins/fl3r-feelbox/</a><br>
(or something like it, doesn't matter)...<br>
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I was thinking the whole tag creation, up-vote, down-vote, smiley,<br>
sad-face, was all going to be community driven, instead of TC<br>
driven, but maybe someone can explain it to me (like I am five).<br>
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Thanks!<br>
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-Josh<br>
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Hi Josh,<br>
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So regardless of the detail that was agreed upon when we proposed the<br>
tag idea, I personally find your interpretation to make a lot of sense.<br>
I think it would be a great direction to go with the tags (and<br>
personally I prefer the faces/graphic version).<br>
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I think the trick will still be figuring out what tags are<br>
defined/used. I don't think we should have just "any tag" added/used,<br>
but of course anybody from the community should be able to<br>
submit/propose a tag.<br>
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Ok, so some basic moderation around the 'add your own tag' in <a href="http://i.imgur.com/rcAnMkX.png" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://i.imgur.com/rcAnMkX.png</a> that can go through some kind of review process (or something else)? Maybe the TC gets to have +2 +A powers on people submitting new tags, making sure duplicates are collapsed, categories are in english?, other basic checks (but in general staying out of the business of tag defining/reviewing/other, let the community figure it out).<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace;display:inline">Right I probably should've been more detailed in my response :) But yes, something like a standard gerrit review process with TC acting as Core for example.</div></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace;display:inline"><br></div></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace;display:inline">As far as your request "Tags, explain like I'm 5", I'll give it a shot :)</div></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace;display:inline"><br></div></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace;display:inline">So the idea was to create Tags to associate with various projects and libraries within the OpenStack ecosystem. The idea being to come up with defined tags that might have some interest to deployers, whether it be to identify how the project is managed/released.</div></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace;display:inline"><br></div></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace;display:inline">It's relatively limited right now I think, and part of the reason for that is we've tried to ensure that the information that we put on tags is subjective, and at the same time doesn't give any false impression that something is "good" or "bad". We just wanted to have tags to easily convey some general information about a project to help people gain at least a little insight into a project, how it's managed, what sort of community is contributing to it etc.</div></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace;display:inline"><br></div></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace;display:inline">As we move into things like the "compute starter kit" it gets a bit less subjective, but not really too much. Maybe the next step is IaaS tag, or maybe not (that doesn't typically end up being a very popular topic when I bring it up). Regardless, that's not really the point here.</div></div><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace;display:inline">I personally have always had the notion in mind that we would have different types of tags, those that the TC works on, identifies and puts together, as well as those that would come in from a broader community. I think that what you're proposing here would be that "broader" community category that IMO is probably more valuable than anything else.</div></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace;display:inline"><br></div></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace;display:inline"><div style="font-family:Osaka-等幅,Osaka-Mono,'\00ff2d\00ff33 \0030b4\0030b7\0030c3\0030af','MS Gothic',monospace"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace;display:inline">I'm admittedly not the strongest tag expert on the TC, so it's quite possible that I'm going to be corrected in short order here, but from my perspective and involvement in the activities, that's the simple explanation that I would provide.</div></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace;display:inline"><br></div></div></div></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace;display:inline">Anyway, I don't know if that helps answer your question at all... I do like your idea of community proposed and voted tags (A LOT) and hope to see some more thought/response via this posting.</div></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace;display:inline"><br></div></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace;display:inline"><br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
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I personally (both as a community member and TC member) would love to<br>
see more of this moving out to the community as a whole rather than<br>
being something defined and set up within the TC.<br>
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Note that one thing the TC has been trying to focus on here is<br>
subjective measurement of the tags that are created, what you're<br>
suggesting is a bit different from that, but personally I like it and<br>
think that in a number of cases it could be very valuable.<br>
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Thanks,<br>
John<br>
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