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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">+1 for the idea of using Nova flavor directly.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Why we introduced the ¡°platform¡± field to indicate ¡°vm¡± or ¡°baremetel¡± is that magnum need to map a bay to a Heat template (which will be used to provision
 the bay). Currently, Magnum has three layers of mapping:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">platform: vm or baremetal<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">os: atomic, coreos, ¡­<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">coe: kubernetes, swarm or mesos<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I think we could just replace ¡°platform¡± with ¡°flavor¡±, if we can populate a list of flovars for VM and another list of flavors for baremetal (We may need an
 additional list of flavors for container in the future for the nested container use case). Then, the new three layers would be:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">flavor: baremetal, m1.small, m1.medium,  ¡­<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">os: atomic, coreos, ...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">coe: kubernetes, swarm or mesos<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">This approach can avoid introducing a new field in baymodel to indicate what Nova flavor already indicates.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Fox, Kevin M [mailto:Kevin.Fox@pnnl.gov]
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<b>Sent:</b> July-15-15 12:37 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum] Magnum template manage use platform VS others as a type?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">Maybe somehow I missed the point, but why not just use raw Nova flavors? They already abstract away irconic vs kvm vs hyperv/etc.<br>
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 15, 2015 9:20 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum] Magnum template manage use platform VS others as a type?</span><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Courier;color:black">IMO virt_type does not properly describe bare metal deployments.  What about using the compute_driver parameter?</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><code><span style="color:black">compute_driver</span></code><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:black"> = </span><code><span style="color:black">None</span></code><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><code><span style="color:black">(StrOpt) Driver to use for controlling virtualization. Options include: libvirt.LibvirtDriver, xenapi.XenAPIDriver, fake.FakeDriver, baremetal.BareMetalDriver, vmwareapi.VMwareVCDriver, hyperv.HyperVDriver</span></code><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><code><span style="color:black"><a href="http://docs.openstack.org/kilo/config-reference/content/list-of-compute-config-options.html" target="_blank">http://docs.openstack.org/kilo/config-reference/content/list-of-compute-config-options.html</a></span></code><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Adrian Otto <<a href="mailto:adrian.otto@rackspace.com" target="_blank">adrian.otto@rackspace.com</a>><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>"OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" <<a href="mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org" target="_blank">openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, July 14, 2015 at 7:44 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>"OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" <<a href="mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org" target="_blank">openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum] Magnum template manage use platform VS others as a type?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">One drawback to virt_type if not seen in the context of the acceptable values, is that it should be set to values like libvirt, xen, ironic, etc. That might actually
 be good. Instead of using the values 'vm' or 'baremetal', we use the name of the nova virt driver, and interpret those to be vm or baremetal types. So if I set the value to 'xen', I know the nova instance type is a vm, and 'ironic' means a baremetal nova instance. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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From: Hongbin Lu <<a href="mailto:hongbin.lu@huawei.com" target="_blank">hongbin.lu@huawei.com</a>>
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Date: 07/14/2015 7:20 PM (GMT-08:00) <br>
To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" <<a href="mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org" target="_blank">openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org</a>>
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Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [magnum] Magnum template manage use platform VS others as a type?
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I am going to propose a third option:</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">3. virt_type</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I have concerns about option 1 and 2, because ¡°instance_type¡± and flavor was used interchangeably before [1]. If we use ¡°instance_type¡± to indicate ¡°vm¡± or
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<a href="https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/flavor-instance-type-dedup" target="_blank">
https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/flavor-instance-type-dedup</a></span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Best regards,</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Hongbin</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black"> Kai Qiang Wu [<a href="mailto:wkqwu@cn.ibm.com" target="_blank">mailto:wkqwu@cn.ibm.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> July-14-15 9:35 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org" target="_blank">openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [openstack-dev] [magnum] Magnum template manage use platform VS others as a type?</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">Hi Magnum Guys,</span><span style="color:black"><br>
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</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">I want to raise this question through ML.</span><span style="color:black"><br>
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</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">In this patch
</span><span style="color:black"><a href="https://review.openstack.org/#/c/200401/" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">https://review.openstack.org/#/c/200401/</span></a><br>
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</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">For some old history reason, we use
<b>platform </b>to indicate 'vm' or 'baremetal'.</span><span style="color:black"><br>
</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">This seems not proper for that, @Adrian proposed nova_instance_type, and someone prefer other names, let me summarize as below:</span><span style="color:black"><br>
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</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">1. nova_instance_type  2 votes</span><span style="color:black"><br>
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</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">2. instance_type 2 votes</span><span style="color:black"><br>
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</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">3. others (1 vote, but not proposed any name)</span><span style="color:black"><br>
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</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">Let's try to reach the agreement ASAP. I think count the final votes winner as the proper name is the best solution(considering community diversity).</span><span style="color:black"><br>
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</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">BTW, If you not proposed any better name, just vote to disagree all, I think that vote is not valid and not helpful to solve the issue.</span><span style="color:black"><br>
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</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">Please help to vote for that name.
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</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">Thanks</span><span style="color:black"><br>
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</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black">Best Wishes,</span><span style="color:black"><br>
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