<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 9:58 AM, Sean Dague <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sean@dague.net" target="_blank">sean@dague.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">Back when Nova first wanted to test partial upgrade, we did a bunch of<br>
slightly odd conditionals inside of grenade and devstack to make it so<br>
that if you were very careful, you could just not stop some of the old<br>
services on a single node, upgrade everything else, and as long as the<br>
old services didn't stop, they'd be running cached code in memory, and<br>
it would look a bit like a 2 node worker not upgraded model. It worked,<br>
but it was weird.<br>
<br>
There has been some interest by the Nova team to expand what's not being<br>
touched, as well as the Neutron team to add partial upgrade testing<br>
support. Both are great initiatives, but I think going about it the old<br>
way is going to add a lot of complexity in weird places, and not be as<br>
good of a test as we really want.<br>
<br>
Nodepool now supports allocating multiple nodes. We have a multinode job<br>
in Nova regularly testing live migration using this.<br>
<br>
If we slice this problem differently, I think we get a better<br>
architecture, a much easier way to add new configs, and a much more<br>
realistic end test.<br>
<br>
Conceptually, use devstack-gate multinode support to set up 2 nodes, an<br>
all in one, and a worker. Let grenade upgrade the all in one, leave the<br>
worker alone.<br>
<br>
I think the only complexity here is the fact that grenade.sh implicitly<br>
drives stack.sh. Which means one of:<br>
<br>
1) devstack-gate could build the worker first, then run grenade.sh<br>
<br>
2) we make it so grenade.sh can execute in parts more easily, so it can<br>
hand something else running stack.sh for it.'<br>
<br>
3) we make grenade understand the subnode for partial upgrade, so it<br>
will run the stack phase on the subnode itself (given credentials).<br>
<br>
This kind of approach means deciding which services you don't want to<br>
upgrade doesn't require devstack changes, it's just a change of the<br>
services on the worker.<br>
<br>
We need a volunteer for taking this on, but I think all the follow on<br>
partial upgrade support will be much much easier to do after we have<br>
this kind of mechanism in place.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I think this is a great approach for the future of partial upgrade support in grenade. I would like to point out step 0 here, is to get tempest passing consistently in multinode.</div><div><br></div><div>Currently the neutron job is failing consistently, and nova-network fails roughly 10% of the time due to <a href="https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1462305">https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1462305</a> and <a href="https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1445569">https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1445569</a></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
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-Sean<br>
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Sean Dague<br>
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