<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 7:19 PM, Ian Wienand <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:iwienand@redhat.com" target="_blank">iwienand@redhat.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class="">On 06/03/2015 07:24 AM, Boris Pavlovic wrote:<br>
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Really it's hard to find cores that understand whole project, but<br>
it's quite simple to find people that can maintain subsystems of<br>
project.<br>
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  We are made wise not by the recollection of our past, but by the<br>
  responsibility for our future.<br>
   - George Bernard Shaw<br>
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Less authorities, mini-kingdoms and<br>
turing-complete-rule-based-gerrit-subtree-git-commit-enforcement; more empowerment of responsible developers and building trust.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
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</div></div></blockquote></div><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace">​All of the debate about the technical feasibility, additional repos aside, the one question I always raise when topics like this come up is "how does that really solve the problem".  In other words, there's still a finite number of folks that dedicate the time to be "subject matter experts" and do the reviews.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace">Maybe this will help, I don't know.  But I have the same argument as I made in my spec to remove drivers from Cinder altogether, creating "another repo" and moving things around just creates more overhead and does little to address the lack of review resources.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace">I understand you're not proposing new repos Boris, although it was mentioned in this thread.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace">I do think that we could probably try and do something like growing the Lieutenant model that the Neutron team is hammering out.  Not sure... but seems like a good start; again assuming there are enough qualified/interested Lieutenants.  I'm not sure, but that's kind of how I interpreted your proposal but one additional step of ACL's; is that accurate?</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace">Thanks,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace">John​</div><br></div></div>