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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">HI Sukhdev,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I also wonder how many folks are in that camp.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Regardless, if we can go from 85
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D">à</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> 2 (or any other much smaller number), then that is a good thing.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Also, from an open source point of view, I’d like to see new contributors/vendors contributing effort on value-add innovation, and less on recreating/maintaining
the ‘common’ portions of 3<sup>rd</sup> party ci. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Ramy<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Sukhdev Kapur [mailto:sukhdevkapur@gmail.com]
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 20, 2015 1:39 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [openstack-dev] [third-party][infra] Third-Party CI Operators: Let's use a common CI Solution!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Ramy, <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">While I agree, in principal, with this line of thinking and goal, my concern will be how much extra work is it going to create for existing CI owners?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Our Ci system has been stable for a long time, and we put in a good amount of effort to get it to that point. Our CI is not based upon zuul framework. Zuul was still under discussion at the time when we put together our CI. We use Jenkins
as front end, along with Gerrit triggers, and AWS for posting/preserving results/log. We have dedicated back-end servers for testing. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">My paranoia at this point will be to learn a new framework, risk breaking things and taking a huge effort to get things stabilized - without much additional ROI.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Am I overreacting here or does my argument makes sense? <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I wonder how many folks will be in that camp? <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 10:17 PM, Asselin, Ramy <<a href="mailto:ramy.asselin@hp.com" target="_blank">ramy.asselin@hp.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">All Third-Party CI operators:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">We’ve got 85 Third Party CI systems registered in the wiki[1], all of them running a variety of closed
& open-source solutions. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Instead of individually maintaining all those similar solutions, let’s join together and collectively
maintain a single solution.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">If that sounds good to you, there’s an Infra-spec that’s been approved [2] to refactor much of what
the Infrastructure team uses for the upstream “Jenkins” CI to be more easily reusable by many of us.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">We’ve got stories defined [3], and a few patches submitted. We’re using the gerrit-topic “downstream-puppet”
[4].</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">For example, we’ve got the first part under review for the “Log Server”, which creates your own version
of <a href="http://logs.openstack.org/" target="_blank">http://logs.openstack.org/</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">If anyone is interested in migrating towards a common solution, reply, or ping me IRC (asselin) on
Freenode #openstack-infra, or join some of the third party ci meetings [5].</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Thanks!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Ramy</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">[1]</span>
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><a href="https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ThirdPartySystems" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ThirdPartySystems</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">[2]
<a href="http://specs.openstack.org/openstack-infra/infra-specs/specs/openstackci.html" target="_blank">
http://specs.openstack.org/openstack-infra/infra-specs/specs/openstackci.html</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">[3]
<a href="https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2000101" target="_blank">https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2000101</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">[4]
<a href="https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:downstream-puppet,n,z" target="_blank">
https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:downstream-puppet,n,z</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<a href="https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ThirdParty#Weekly_Third_Party_meetings" target="_blank">
https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ThirdParty#Weekly_Third_Party_meetings</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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