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<span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span>Angus Salkeld <<a href="mailto:asalkeld@mirantis.com">asalkeld@mirantis.com</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Reply-To: </span>"OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" <<a href="mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org">openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Thursday, April 9, 2015 6:43 PM<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>"OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" <<a href="mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org">openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Re: [openstack-dev] [all] how to send messages (and events) to our users<br>
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<div>>From: Angus Salkeld <<a href="mailto:asalkeld@mirantis.com" target="_blank">asalkeld@mirantis.com</a>></div>
<div>>Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2015 8:24 PM</div>
<div>>To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)</div>
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<div>>I also want to point out that what I'd actually rather see is that all</div>
<div>>of the services provide functionality like this. Users would be served</div>
<div>>by having an event stream from Nova telling them when their instances</div>
<div>>are active, deleted, stopped, started, error, etc.</div>
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<div>>Also, I really liked Sandy's suggestion to use the notifications on the</div>
<div>>backend, and then funnel them into something that the user can consume.</div>
<div>>The project they have, yagi, for putting them into atom feeds is pretty</div>
<div>>interesting. If we could give people a simple API that says "subscribe</div>
<div>>to Nova/Cinder/Heat/etc. notifications for instance X, and put them</div>
<div>>in an atom feed", that seems like something that would make sense as</div>
<div>>an under-the-cloud service that would be relatively low cost and would</div>
<div>>ultimately reduce load on API servers.</div>
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<div>>"an under-the-clould service" ? - That is not what I am after here. </div>
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<div>Yeah, we're using this as an "under cloud" service. Our notifications are only</div>
<div>consumed internally, so it's not a multi-tenant/SaaS solution.</div>
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<div>>What I am really after is a general OpenStack solution for how end users can<br>
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<div>>consume service notifications (and replace "heat event-list").</div>
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<div>>Right now there is "ceilometer event-list", but as some Ceilometer devs have said,</div>
<div>>they don't want to store every notification that comes.</div>
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<div>>So is the yagi + atom hopper solution something we can point end-users to?</div>
<div>>Is it per-tenant etc...</div>
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<div>However, there is a team within Rax working on this SaaS offering: </div>
<div>Peter Kazmir and Joe Savak. I'll let them respond with their lessons on </div>
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<div>Great, thanks Sandy. It would be good to see what this is (is it just Zaqar? or something totally different).</div>
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<div>AtomHopper is an atom-pub server (it's open source: <a href="http://atomhopper.org">
http://atomhopper.org</a>/ ), we use it with Repose (<a href="http://openrepose.org">http://openrepose.org</a>/) </div>
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<div>to support Keystone auth, etc. We use Yagi to read notifications from the rabbit queues and publish notifications in Atom format to a feed. </div>
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<div>We've been using this setup internally for a couple of years now. As Sandy mentioned, Peter and Joe are working on the project to provide these Atom feeds to end users.</div>
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<div>>Sandy, do you have a write up somewhere on how to set this up so I can experiment a bit?</div>
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<div>Yagi: <a href="https://github.com/rackerlabs/yagi" target="_blank">https://github.com/rackerlabs/yagi</a> <br>
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<div>AtomHopper: <a href="http://atomhopper.org/" target="_blank">http://atomhopper.org/</a> (java warning)</div>
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<div>The StackTach.v3 sandbox is DevStack-for-Notifications. It simulates </div>
<div>notifications (no openstack deploy needed) and it has Yagi set up to</div>
<div>consume them. There's also Vagrant scripts to get you going. <br>
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<div>and some, slightly older, screencasts on the Sandbox here:<br>
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<div><a href="http://www.stacktach.com/screencasts.html" target="_blank">http://www.stacktach.com/screencasts.html</a> <br>
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<div>We're in the #stacktach channel, by all means ping us if you run into problems.</div>
<div>Or if a Hangout works better for you, just scream :)</div>
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<div>Thanks for the help!</div>
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