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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:#AAAAAA'>Dell - Internal Use - Confidential </span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>+2 on Mike’s job<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><a name="_____replyseparator"></a><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Duncan Thomas [mailto:duncan.thomas@gmail.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 24, 2015 3:07 AM<br><b>To:</b> OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [openstack-dev] Cinder Third-Party CI: what next? (was Re: [cinder] Request exemption for removal of NetApp FC drivers (no voting CI))<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 23 March 2015 at 22:50, Mike Perez <<a href="mailto:thingee@gmail.com" target="_blank">thingee@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><br>I've talked to folks at the OpenStack foundation to get feedback on my<br>communication, and was told this was good, and even better than previous<br>communication to controversial changes.<br><br>I expected nevertheless people to be angry with me and blame me regardless of<br>my attempts to help people be successful and move the community forward.<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>As somebody who has previously attempted to drive 3rd party CI in Cinder forward and completely burnt out on the process, I have to applaud Mike's efforts. We needed a line in the sand to force the issue, or we were never going to get to 100% coverage of drivers, which was what we desperately needed.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>For those who've have issues getting CI to be stable, this is a genuine reflection of the stability of Openstack in general, but it is not something we're going to be able to make progress on without CI systems exposing problems. That's the entire point of the 3rd party CI program - we knew there were bugs, stability issues and drivers that just plain didn't work, but we couldn't do much about it without being able to test changes.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks to Mike for the finally push on this, and to all of the various people in both cinder and infra who've been very active in helping people get their CI running, sometimes in very trying circumstances.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>-- <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Duncan Thomas<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></body></html>