<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Mar 24, 2015, at 9:30 AM, John Griffith <<a href="mailto:john.griffith8@gmail.com" class="">john.griffith8@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 4:52 AM, Thierry Carrez <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:thierry@openstack.org" target="_blank" class="">thierry@openstack.org</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class="">Walter A. Boring IV wrote:<br class="">
> Thanks Mike for all of your efforts on this,<br class="">
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</span>+1<br class="">
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I think Mike checked all the possible boxes to give fair warning to<br class="">
driver owners.<br class="">
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It's hard to say "no" in the name of quality. It's so much easier to<br class="">
just say "yes" and avoid all the hatemail and the pressure.<br class="">
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Mike did the right thing, he did it the right way, and he needs all the<br class="">
support the rest of our community can give him.<br class="">
<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888" class=""><br class="">
--<br class="">
Thierry Carrez (ttx)<br class="">
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</div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace">Just adding my support to the very hard thing that Mike is doing here. As mentioned discussions and warnings have gone on ad nauseum over the last year. I may not agree with some of the wording or depictions, and I certainly am empathetic here; but the fact is this has been a year long process that was communicated, discussed and help provided. NOTE this started at the summit in Atlanta!!!<br class=""><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace">CI can be hard, the work of a lot of people in Cinder, the Infra team and others have made it a lot easier. People have also spent countless hours writing code for this, setting up their own systems and helping others out via IRC and even a dedicated weekly meeting as well as a time slot every week in Cinders meeting. <br class=""><br class="">If the reasons were different than "my data center went offline" or "I can't host a public web server" I might have a different opinion. But I have a really hard time with this sort of thing coming from companies the size and scale of Microsoft, NetApp and Oracle.<br class=""><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace">Anyway, I do feel bad but not as bad as I'd feel for everybody that worked their butts off on this whole topic for the last year if we turn around and punt it again.<br class=""><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:monospace,monospace">John<br class=""></div><br class=""></div></div></div></blockquote><br class=""></div><div>Echoing both Thierry and John. I support Mike’s decision to enforce the requirement. Maintaining drivers in the tree comes with responsibilities to the community and 3rd party CI is one of the them. Mike enforcing this requirement was the right action even if a hard one to take.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>mark</div></body></html>