<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 11:46 AM, Doug Hellmann <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:doug@doughellmann.com" target="_blank">doug@doughellmann.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br>
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On Tue, Mar 10, 2015, at 12:29 PM, Russell Bryant wrote:<br>
> The TC is in the middle of implementing a fairly significant change in<br>
> project governance. You can find an overview from Thierry on the<br>
> OpenStack blog [1].<br>
><br>
> Part of the change is to recognize more projects as being part of the<br>
> OpenStack community. Another critical part was replacing the integrated<br>
> release with a set of tags. A project would be given a tag if it meets<br>
> some defined set of criteria.<br>
><br>
> I feel that we're at a very vulnerable part of this transition. We've<br>
> abolished the incubation process and integrated release. We've<br>
> established a fairly low bar for new projects [2]. However, we have not<br>
> yet approved *any* tags other than the one that reflects which projects<br>
> are included in the final integrated release (Kilo) [3]. Despite the<br>
> previously discussed challenges with the integrated release,<br>
> it did at least mean that a project has met a very useful set of<br>
> criteria [4].<br>
><br>
> We now have several new project proposals. However, I propose not<br>
> approving any new projects until we have a tagging system that is at<br>
> least far enough along to represent the set of criteria that we used to<br>
> apply to all OpenStack projects (with exception for ones we want to<br>
> consciously drop). Otherwise, I think it's a significant setback to our<br>
> project governance as we have yet to provide any useful way to navigate<br>
> the growing set of projects.<br>
><br>
> The resulting set of tags doesn't have to be focused on replicating our<br>
> previous set of criteria. The focus must be on what information is<br>
> needed by various groups of consumers and tags are a mechanism to<br>
> implement that. In any case, we're far from that point because today we<br>
> have nothing.<br>
><br>
> I can't think of any good reason to rush into approving projects in the<br>
> short term. If we're not able to work out this rich tagging system in a<br>
> reasonable amount of time, then maybe the whole approach is broken and<br>
> we need to rethink the whole approach.<br>
<br>
</div></div>I think we made it pretty clear that we would be taking approvals<br>
slowly, and that we might not approve any new projects before the<br>
summit, precisely for the reasons you state here. I have found the<br>
submitted proposals<br>
<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br></div></div></blockquote><div>Right, but we want it to be clear we're not approving new project proposals at this point so everyone is on the same page.<br> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">
><br>
> Thanks,<br>
><br>
> [1]<br>
> <a href="http://www.openstack.org/blog/2015/02/tc-update-project-reform-progress/" target="_blank">http://www.openstack.org/blog/2015/02/tc-update-project-reform-progress/</a><br>
> [2]<br>
> <a href="http://governance.openstack.org/reference/new-projects-requirements.html" target="_blank">http://governance.openstack.org/reference/new-projects-requirements.html</a><br>
> [3] <a href="http://governance.openstack.org/reference/tags/index.html" target="_blank">http://governance.openstack.org/reference/tags/index.html</a><br>
> [4]<br>
> <a href="http://governance.openstack.org/reference/incubation-integration-requirements.html" target="_blank">http://governance.openstack.org/reference/incubation-integration-requirements.html</a><br>
><br>
> --<br>
> Russell Bryant<br>
><br>
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