<div dir="ltr">Hi,<div><br></div><div>+1 to Dmitriy's comment.</div><div>We can spend several month on polishing the spec, will it help</div><div>to release feature in time? I don't think so.</div><div>Also with your suggestion we'll get a lot of patches over 2 thousands</div><div>lines of code, after spec is merged. Huge patches reduce quality,</div><div>because it's too hard to review, also such patches much harder</div><div>to get merged.</div><div>I think the spec should be a synchronization point, where different</div><div>teams can discuss details and make sure that everything is correct.</div><div>The spec should represent the current state of the code which is</div><div>merged and which is going to be merged.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 1:03 AM, Dmitriy Shulyak <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dshulyak@mirantis.com" target="_blank">dshulyak@mirantis.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Andrew,<div>What should be sorted out? It is unavoidable that people will comment and ask questions during development cycle.</div><div>I am not sure that merging spec as early as possible, and than add comments and different fixes is good strategy.</div><div>On the other hand we need to eliminate risks.. but how merging spec can help?</div></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 8:49 PM, Andrew Woodward <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:xarses@gmail.com" target="_blank">xarses@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Vova,<br>
<br>
Its great to see so much progress on this, however it appears that we<br>
have started merging code prior to the spec landing [0] lets get it<br>
sorted ASAP.<br>
<br>
[0] <a href="https://review.openstack.org/#/c/113491/" target="_blank">https://review.openstack.org/#/c/113491/</a><br>
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On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 8:21 AM, Vladimir Kuklin <<a href="mailto:vkuklin@mirantis.com" target="_blank">vkuklin@mirantis.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Hi, Fuelers and Stackers<br>
><br>
> I am glad to announce that we merged initial support for granular deployment<br>
> feature which is described here:<br>
><br>
> <a href="https://blueprints.launchpad.net/fuel/+spec/granular-deployment-based-on-tasks" target="_blank">https://blueprints.launchpad.net/fuel/+spec/granular-deployment-based-on-tasks</a><br>
><br>
> This is an important milestone for our overall deployment and operations<br>
> architecture as well as it is going to significantly improve our testing and<br>
> engineering process.<br>
><br>
> Starting from now we can start merging code for:<br>
><br>
> <a href="https://blueprints.launchpad.net/fuel/+spec/fuel-library-modularization" target="_blank">https://blueprints.launchpad.net/fuel/+spec/fuel-library-modularization</a><br>
> <a href="https://blueprints.launchpad.net/fuel/+spec/fuel-library-modular-testing" target="_blank">https://blueprints.launchpad.net/fuel/+spec/fuel-library-modular-testing</a><br>
><br>
> We are still working on documentation and QA stuff, but it should be pretty<br>
> simple for you to start trying it out. We would really appreciate your<br>
> feedback.<br>
><br>
> Existing issues are the following:<br>
><br>
> 1) pre and post deployment hooks are still out of the scope of main<br>
> deployment graph<br>
> 2) there is currently only puppet task provider working reliably<br>
> 3) no developer published documentation<br>
> 4) acyclic graph testing not injected into CI<br>
> 5) there is currently no opportunity to execute particular task - only the<br>
> whole deployment (code is being reviewed right now)<br>
><br>
> --<br>
> Yours Faithfully,<br>
> Vladimir Kuklin,<br>
> Fuel Library Tech Lead,<br>
> Mirantis, Inc.<br>
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On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 8:21 AM, Vladimir Kuklin <<a href="mailto:vkuklin@mirantis.com" target="_blank">vkuklin@mirantis.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Hi, Fuelers and Stackers<br>
><br>
> I am glad to announce that we merged initial support for granular deployment<br>
> feature which is described here:<br>
><br>
> <a href="https://blueprints.launchpad.net/fuel/+spec/granular-deployment-based-on-tasks" target="_blank">https://blueprints.launchpad.net/fuel/+spec/granular-deployment-based-on-tasks</a><br>
><br>
> This is an important milestone for our overall deployment and operations<br>
> architecture as well as it is going to significantly improve our testing and<br>
> engineering process.<br>
><br>
> Starting from now we can start merging code for:<br>
><br>
> <a href="https://blueprints.launchpad.net/fuel/+spec/fuel-library-modularization" target="_blank">https://blueprints.launchpad.net/fuel/+spec/fuel-library-modularization</a><br>
> <a href="https://blueprints.launchpad.net/fuel/+spec/fuel-library-modular-testing" target="_blank">https://blueprints.launchpad.net/fuel/+spec/fuel-library-modular-testing</a><br>
><br>
> We are still working on documentation and QA stuff, but it should be pretty<br>
> simple for you to start trying it out. We would really appreciate your<br>
> feedback.<br>
><br>
> Existing issues are the following:<br>
><br>
> 1) pre and post deployment hooks are still out of the scope of main<br>
> deployment graph<br>
> 2) there is currently only puppet task provider working reliably<br>
> 3) no developer published documentation<br>
> 4) acyclic graph testing not injected into CI<br>
> 5) there is currently no opportunity to execute particular task - only the<br>
> whole deployment (code is being reviewed right now)<br>
><br>
> --<br>
> Yours Faithfully,<br>
> Vladimir Kuklin,<br>
> Fuel Library Tech Lead,<br>
> Mirantis, Inc.<br>
> <a href="tel:%2B7%20%28495%29%20640-49-04" value="+74956404904" target="_blank">+7 (495) 640-49-04</a><br>
> <a href="tel:%2B7%20%28926%29%20702-39-68" value="+79267023968" target="_blank">+7 (926) 702-39-68</a><br>
> Skype kuklinvv<br>
> 45bk3, Vorontsovskaya Str.<br>
> Moscow, Russia,<br>
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