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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Hi
</span><span lang="DE" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Yuriy Babenko,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I am little worried about the direction we need to think about Service Chaining .<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">OpenStack will focus on Service Chaining of its own internal features (like FWaaS, LBaaS, VPNasS , L2 Gateway Aas .. ? )<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">OR<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">will it consider Service Chaining of ‘Service-VM’ also ?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">A. If we are considering ‘Service-VM’ service Chaining I have below points to mention ..<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">1.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Does the OpenStack needs to worry about Service-VM capability ?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">2.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Does OpenStack worry if Service-VM also have OVS or not ?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Does OpenStack worry if Service-VM has its own routing instance running in that ? Which can reconfigures the OVS flow .<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Can Service-VM configure OpenStack infrastructure OVS ?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">5.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Can Service-VM have multiple features in it ? (Example DPI + FW + NAT ) …<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.25in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Is Service-VM is = vNFVC ?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">B. If we are thinking of Service-chaining of ‘OpenStack only Services’ :<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Then have below points
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">For a Tennant:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Can Services be binded to a particular Compute node(CN) ?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo4"><![if !supportLists]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">2.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">A Tennant may not want to run/enable all the Services on all CN’s.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Tennant may want to run FWaaS, VPNaaS on different CNs so that Tenant get better infrastructure performance.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Then are we considering chaining of Services per Tennant ?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">If so how to control this ? (Please consider that tenants VM can get migrated to different CNs)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Let me know others opinion.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">keshava<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> Yuriy.Babenko@telekom.de [mailto:Yuriy.Babenko@telekom.de]
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, December 18, 2014 7:35 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org; stephen.kf.wong@gmail.com<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [openstack-dev] [NFV][Telco] Service VM v/s its basic framework<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Hi,
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">in the IRC meeting yesterday we agreed to work on the use-case for service function chaining as it seems to be important for a lot of participants
[1]. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">We will prepare the first draft and share it in the TelcoWG Wiki for discussion.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<pre><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">There is one blueprint in openstack on that in [2] </span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></pre>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">[1]
</span><span lang="DE" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><a href="http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/telcowg/2014/telcowg.2014-12-17-14.01.txt"><span lang="EN-GB">http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/telcowg/2014/telcowg.2014-12-17-14.01.txt</span></a></span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">[2]
</span><span lang="EN-GB"><a href="https://blueprints.launchpad.net/group-based-policy/+spec/group-based-policy-service-chaining">https://blueprints.launchpad.net/group-based-policy/+spec/group-based-policy-service-chaining</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span lang="DE" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Kind regards/Mit freundlichen Grüßen
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<b>Gesendet:</b> Mittwoch, 10. Dezember 2014 19:06<br>
<b>An:</b> <a href="mailto:stephen.kf.wong@gmail.com">stephen.kf.wong@gmail.com</a>; OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)<br>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: [openstack-dev] [NFV][Telco] Service VM v/s its basic framework<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Hi Murali,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">There are many unknows w.r.t ‘Service-VM’ and how it should from NFV perspective.
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In my opinion it was not decided how the Service-VM framework should be. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Depending on this we at OpenStack also will have impact for ‘Service Chaining’.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Please find the mail attached w.r.t that discussion with NFV for ‘Service-VM + Openstack OVS related discussion”.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> Stephen Wong [<a href="mailto:stephen.kf.wong@gmail.com">mailto:stephen.kf.wong@gmail.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 10, 2014 10:03 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [openstack-dev] [NFV][Telco] Service VM v/s its basic framework<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Murali,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> There is already a ServiceVM project (Tacker), currently under development on stackforge:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ServiceVM">https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ServiceVM</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> If you are interested in this topic, please take a look at the wiki page above and see if the project's goals align with yours. If so, you are certainly welcome to join the IRC meeting and start to contribute to the project's direction
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 7:01 AM, Murali B <<a href="mailto:mbirru@gmail.com" target="_blank">mbirru@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi keshava,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We would like contribute towards service chain and NFV <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Could you please share the document if you have any related to service VM<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The service chain can be achieved if we able to redirect the traffic to service VM using ovs-flows<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">in this case we no need to have routing enable on the service VM(traffic is redirected at L2).<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">All the tenant VM's in cloud could use this service VM services by adding the ovs-rules in OVS<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#888888">-Murali<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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