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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 14/10/2014 01:46, Adam Lawson a
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0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><i><span
              style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">I
              think Adam is talking about this bp: </span><a
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href="https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/evacuate-instance-automatically"
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              style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/evacuate-instance-automatically</a><span
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        <div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Correct
            - yes. Sorry about that. ; )</span></div>
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        <div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">So
            it would seem the question is not whether to support
            auto-evac but how it should be handled. If not handled by
            Nova, it gets complicated. Asking a user to configure a
            custom Nagios trigger/action... not sure if we'd recommend
            that as our definition of ideal.</span></div>
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            <li><span
                style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">I
                can foresee Congress being used to control whether
                auto-evac is required and what other policies come into
                play by virtue of an unplanned host removal from
                service. But that seems like a bit overkill.</span><br>
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            <li><span
                style="font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">i
                can foresee Nova/scheduler being used to perform the
                evac itself. Are they still</span><span
                style="font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans-serif"> pushing
                back?</span><br>
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            <li><span
                style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">I
                can foresee Ceilometer being used to capture service
                state and define how long a node should be inaccessible
                before it's considered offline. But seems a bit out of
                scope for what ceilometer was meant to do.</span><br>
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    Well, IMHO Gantt should just enforce policies (possibly defined by
    Congress or whatever else) so if a condition is not met (here, HA on
    a VM), it should issue a reschedule. That said, Gantt is not
    responsible for polling all events and updating its internal view,
    that's another project which should send those metrics to it. <br>
    <br>
    I'm not having a preference in between Heat, Ceilometer or whatever
    else for notifying Gantt. I even think that whatever the solution
    would be (even a Nagios handler), that's Gantt at the end which
    would trigger the evacuation by calling Nova to fence that compute
    node and move the VM to another host (like rescheduling already
    does, but in a manual way).<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    -Sylvain<br>
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        <div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">I'm
            all about making this super easy to do a simple task though,
            at least so the settings are all defined in one place. Nova
            seems logical but I'm wondering if there is still
            resistance.</span><br>
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        <div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">So
            curious; how are these higher-level discussions
            initiated/facilitated? TC?</span></div>
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    I proposed a cross-project session at the Paris Summit about
    scheduling and Gantt (yet to be accepted), that usecase could be
    discussed there.<br>
    <br>
    -Sylvain<br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 3:21 PM,
          Russell Bryant <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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              class="">On 10/13/2014 06:18 PM, Jay Lau wrote:<br>
              > This is also a use case for Congress, please check
              use case 3 in the<br>
              > following link.<br>
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              > <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ExDmT06vDZjzOPePYBqojMRfXodvsk0R8nRkX-zrkSw/edit#"
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            </span>Wow, really?  That honestly makes me very worried
            about the scope of<br>
            Congress being far too big (so early, and maybe period).<br>
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